Loud gearbox


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harley69
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Loud gearbox

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Recently acquired a gl 1200 aspencade I had never ridden a goldwing so have no comparison. I ride a 69 sportster and a 56 flh chopper. Honda’s transmission sounds very loud with high pitch whine under acceleration less on decell bike has 27k on it and runs fine ,it has fresh 20/50 motorcycle oil in and new final drive lube other than noise everything seems good.
I would apprecate any imput. Thanks



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It's probably the first time you can actually hear the transmission! :lol:

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I had that same problem with my 1200 when I acquired it and started putting some miles on it. After a while it got louder and louder. I was thinking transmission, clutch, driveshaft and a few other things that might be causing it. After asking around in here, I was told to checkout the final drive, and sure enough, after I put on a different final drive, the noise stopped and I haven't had a bit of trouble with is since. I've put over 10,000 happy noise free miles on it so far. You might want to consider changing yours and see if that solves your noise problem.

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Welcome to the forum :)

Does the pitch of the whine follow engine RPM's? That is to say, when you shift gears, does the pitch of the whine go down along with the engine RPM in the next gear? If so, the final drive is not the source of the whine. If it were, the pitch of the whine would increase the faster you go, regardless of what gear you are in.

These Goldwings all make a certain amount of whine (think it's actually the alternator), just the nature of the beast.

When I first got my 1500, I was a little concerned about the final drive making noise as I was going around a curve, thinking it had something to do with side forces. As it turned out, the 2/3 worn Dunlop E3 on the rear was cupped, and that was what I was hearing in the turns. Bike is quiet enough that the tire howl was noticeable, same tire on a different bike you'd probably not have heard it. New E4 and the howl was gone. I would have run the E3 until it was worn out and lived with the howl, but it developed a leak in the tread and I got tired of refilling the air every day.

You might find the 20w50 oil a little heavy for the 1200, tried it in my 1100 once and it caused issues with the starter sprague clutch, the starter would just spin without engaging the engine on cold days. On warm days it was fine. The 1200 has the same starter clutch arrangement as the 1100.
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My 1500 had a PAIR of those E3s on it when I got it.
Damned things howled like a banshee in turns until I got rid
of those tires.
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harley69 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:58 am
Recently acquired a gl 1200 aspencade I had never ridden a goldwing so have no comparison. I ride a 69 sportster and a 56 flh chopper. Honda’s transmission sounds very loud with high pitch whine under acceleration less on decell bike has 27k on it and runs fine ,it has fresh 20/50 motorcycle oil in and new final drive lube other than noise everything seems good.
I would apprecate any imput. Thanks
Why rare you using Hog oil in a GoldWing? Too thick. Might be great for a combine or log truck or HD … I used it in my Triumph too, but not in a GoldWing.

Try some Delo 400 in 15W40.
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harley69 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:58 am
Recently acquired a gl 1200 aspencade I had never ridden a goldwing so have no comparison. I ride a 69 sportster and a 56 flh chopper. Honda’s transmission sounds very loud with high pitch whine under acceleration less on decell bike has 27k on it and runs fine ,it has fresh 20/50 motorcycle oil in and new final drive lube other than noise everything seems good.
I would apprecate any imput. Thanks
Welcome to the forum harley69
Did you pull the final drive out, clean and lube all the splines with Moly Paste?(not grease as moly grease will sag and run)
Dry rusty splines will make noise.



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I've run 20/50 in mine from the beginning, better for the high temperatures of this area and no difference when in the cold areas. No whine from mine. I'd suspect tires or final drive area, just my guess :?:
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Thank you all for your input , I didn’t expect such a good response (being new to the forum) mlnimac does have a valid point, I have never had such a quiet and comfortable ride with electric start to boot ! I’m sorry I mistyped about the oil , I meant 20/40 ( the hogs get aeroshell w100+) I couldn't find delo 400 le (although it's advertised I found only sde). I intend to check everything mentioned in your potsts as soon as I get settled for winter.
Thank you all

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'Nuther good oil for these 'Wings is Shell Rotella T6 5w40, (diesel oil), it is JASO-MA2 rated and no friction-modifiers (good for wet clutch) and commonly available at Wally-mart at a wallet-friendly price. :)

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DenverWinger wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:45 am
'Nuther good oil for these 'Wings is Shell Rotella T6 5w40, (diesel oil), it is JASO-MA2 rated and no friction-modifiers (good for wet clutch) and commonly available at Wally-mart at a wallet-friendly price. :)

Enjoy the ride!
I have been using T6 now for a couple years, and like you, it is giving me at least the best shifting action that I have experienced.

Flyone - Bill Ladigo, called me up about 3 weeks ago, wanted to know what oil I was using and talking up so much. His 1800 trike shifting action has been very clunky and annoying to him.... He switched over to T6 5w40 and was so thrilled at the results, that he called me back and praised the results.


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