Why does the 84 have have it's own mirrors?


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Why does the 84 have have it's own mirrors?

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We have a saying here:
Af skade bliver man klog
Roughly translated to "Injuries makes you wiser".
And after my little incident on my vacation I have been thinking, and probably no one actually knows the answer, but why is it that for just 1984 the mirrors on the Interstate and Aspencade are different from the 1100s and the later 1200s?

I mean looking at the 1983 (and seems like 1982 as well) you have those chrome mirrors sitting on the fairing, like the one in the bottom right:




In 1984 we then get the rectangular mirrors where the rubber boot goes from the side to the fairing:




And in 1985 (and '86 too it seems) it changes again to a different shape and with the rubber boot under the mirror:



All images from Goldwing.nl (Dutch retailer of Goldwing parts and accessories. I gain nothing from this, just knew that here I could find pictures :)

The '85 change could be due to the Limited Edition, but then continued - so... are the '84 mirrors so bad that they decided to change completely or maybe just a design feature as the big '84 mirrors might be a bit bulky compared to the later ones.

Anyone have any ideas?


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Re: Why does the 84 have have it's own mirrors?

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I think the reason for the change is to lift the mirrors just a bit higher. That makes it easier to see over your arms at the cage bearing down on you.
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Re: Why does the 84 have have it's own mirrors?

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There was a complete redesign between 1983 and 1984. The mirrors are just part of Honda's vision for the new GL1200. In actuality, the majority of the parts were changed in this redesign.

In looking at the Honda Isometric Exploded Parts diagrams and Part Lists, I found the following:

1984 Right 88110-MG9-771
1984 Left 88120-MG9-771
1985-1987 Right 88110-MG9-683
1985-1987 Left 88120-MG9-683

They may well be interchangeable.
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Re: Why does the 84 have have it's own mirrors?

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Andy Cote wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:50 pm There was a complete redesign between 1983 and 1984. The mirrors are just part of Honda's vision for the new GL1200. In actuality, the majority of the parts were changed in this redesign.

In looking at the Honda Isometric Exploded Parts diagrams and Part Lists, I found the following:

1984 Right 88110-MG9-771
1984 Left 88120-MG9-771
1985-1987 Right 88110-MG9-683
1985-1987 Left 88120-MG9-683

They may well be interchangeable.
As it seems to one of the suppliers I use, the new version (85-87) should be useable on an 1200 Aspencade and Interstate models, so if I lose another mirror I might change to the '85 look, but this time I decided to keep it original (I also have a bad experience with aftermarket mirrors even when they are replicas of the original; sometimes the mirror has a different field of view that but necessarily is better).

Personally I have no issues with the '84 mirrors with neither by body or the luggage box, so I imagined the change might have been to streamline so there was not a specific mirror for Limited Edition and a specific for the regulars so they all just got the new design from '85 and onwards. But it could also be something about the design that was bad since the '84 look only lasted for one year.

Repro mirrors only seems to be made in '85-'87 style so if I keep driving with the mirror in the ground (only happened once so far) I may run out of parts some day :lol:

Both answers seem quite plausible.
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Re: Why does the 84 have have it's own mirrors?

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Why not?

Why does this forum require a 20 character minimum post?

How long is a piece of string?

It's just one of those things.
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Re: Why does the 84 have have it's own mirrors?

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Rambozo wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:19 am Why not?

Why does this forum require a 20 character minimum post?

How long is a piece of string?

It's just one of those things.
True :lol: I guess I am great too used to models keeping the design for a bit longer.... But then again why does an Oddsmobile have clockwise threads for the wheel on one year - and the next year is counterclockwise...

Indeed there is no need for a reason, but just makes me wonder as I am used to Yamaha bikes :lol:


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