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Re: replacing my horn

Post by bellboy40 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:13 pm



NVSB4 wrote: A friend of mine replaced his stock horns with Balkamp 730-1058 (low note) and 730-1059 (high note) horns. Read more: viewtopic.php?t=12566#ixzz4DZTJHcec

How do these Balkamp horns sound? Is it like a car horn or does it still have the beep,beep roadrunner sound?



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Re: replacing my horn

Post by NVSB4 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:06 pm

bellboy40 wrote:NVSB4 wrote: A friend of mine replaced his stock horns with Balkamp 730-1058 (low note) and 730-1059 (high note) horns. Read more: viewtopic.php?t=12566#ixzz4DZTJHcec

How do these Balkamp horns sound? Is it like a car horn or does it still have the beep,beep roadrunner sound?
On the original post I attached a link to a YouTube video that shows the different sounds of the horns.
The Balkamp are around the 2:00 minute mark.
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Re: replacing my horn

Post by bellboy40 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:20 pm

Ok, I looked at the video of the horn sounds your buddy put up. The NAPA horns sound much like the original horns to me. Maybe a louder beep,beep.
I'm going to try a set of the GL1800 horns on my 1500 and see what I can do with them.

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Re: replacing my horn

Post by NVSB4 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:15 pm

I think I've heard that someone has done it, let us know how it works out.
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Re: replacing my horn

Post by bellboy40 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:29 am

Ok, I will let everyone here know how it works out. I have a used set ordered and they should be here by the weekend. I checked the wiring diagram for the 1800 horns and they are wired like the 1500 is. There is a relay in the circuit but it is operated when you turn the ignition switch on and all the current for the horns goes through the horn button just the same as the 1500 is. That way the horn is inoperative when the switch is not turned on. I can just plug the 1800 horns into the same wires that are connected to the original horns without any additional wiring or relays needed.

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Re: replacing my horn

Post by Bluewaterhooker0 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:38 pm

wellman wrote:Bluewater,
I just finished mounting a WOLO Bad Boy 419 on my 2000 GL1500SE this afternoon. This is really a loud horn, will surely be an attention getter! Had the same question, where to mount this horn. No room I could find in the under fairing, did not have room to put above fender, did not want to use zip ties or have to fab a bracket.
Here is what I ended up doing and without modifying any of the plastics.
- Removed lower cowling to access horn and existing wiring
-Remove headlight adj. knob
-Remove left side fairing pocket
-Attach 2 wires to existing horn connections and fish up to the cavity under fairing pocket
-Use relay provided with horn unit. This is required due to the voltage and amperage needed to power the horn unit
-I powered the relay from a fused circuit previously ran for the power port installed in the fairing pocket
-The unit itself fit nicely in the forward cavity of the fairing. I used heavy duty velcro to attach so horn unit would not roll/ bounce around
-Seems to be firmly in place
-Reinstall the pocket, adj and lower cowling.

You can see in the picture the final install. I pulled the pocket back out after reading your post this afternoon for the pic. Everyone likes to see pictures. Pic does really show how far the horn unit is up in the cavity. Plenty of room to put the pocket in.
Bought the WOLO Bad Boy 419 at Harbor Freight for about 30 bucks after using the disc coupon. Not a bad deal, see how long it lasts.

Hope this helps!
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Just finished installing a Bad Boy in the same place you did. Fits great, works great. thanks for the heads up !

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Re: replacing my horn

Post by bellboy40 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:57 pm

Well I tried to install the 1800 horns on my 1500 but there is just not enough room where the original horns are. Those 1800 horns sound really good though. I think I will put them on my Silverado instead. One of the horns on it has quit working.
Looks like I need to visit Harbor Freight to get one of those Bad Boy horns and put it where you guys have installed them. That sounds like a good solution for the wimpy sounding stock horns.

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Re: replacing my horn

Post by Bluewaterhooker0 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:47 pm

As was stated by "wellman", the sound is surprisingly un-muffled by placement in that space. I can detect no real difference in volume. And, either way, it beats the crap out of the "VW" beep-beep.

Just keep in mind, it needs its own power supply, fused and wired for 20A. That horn uses 16A to operate. I just ran a couple of wires up from the left horn, to trigger the relay, which the original circuitry will have no problem handling. Then wired the positive (+) power through the relay to the (+) on the horn, and (-) grounded the horn through one of the 2 screws that are attached to the chassis located underneath the pocket, toward the driver position. I already had a 14G fused wire, direct from the battery, feeding to under the pocket for a charging power outlet in the pocket. Had to up the fuse size to 20A, as specified by the manufacturer. Did the rest of the wiring with 16G, which the horn manufacturer claims is adequate for the circuit.

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Re: replacing my horn

Post by bellboy40 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:40 am

Thank you Bluewater. Good information to have. Yes, I will use the proper wiring to feed the horns. I have added air horns to motorcycle before and am aware of the need for a good power supply for them. My background is in the electronics field so that part will be no problem.

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Re: replacing my horn

Post by DenverWinger » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:05 am

bellboy40 wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:13 pm
NVSB4 wrote: A friend of mine replaced his stock horns with Balkamp 730-1058 (low note) and 730-1059 (high note) horns.
FWIW, Yesterday I went to NAPA to pick up the Balkamp horns I ordered the day before. Instead of Balkamp, they gave me FIAMM D40365 (low) and D41310 (high). Not installed yet, but I took one of them out of the package and tested it on my deep-cycle camping battery.... Plenty loud. Remains to be seen if they fit the 1500 same as the Balkamp.

I'm going to measure the total current draw on these two FIAMMs together, and compare it to the current draw of the stock 1500 horns once I have them off. If the FIAMMs draw within 5 amps of the stock horns I think I can get away with connecting them directly to the harness, but if more than that I'll have to set them up with a relay.

Will post results.....
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Re: replacing my horn

Post by Corkster52 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:48 am

I'll want to replace mine soon. Good thread here with lots of great info!

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Re: replacing my horn

Post by Mh434 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:56 am

DenverWinger wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:05 am
bellboy40 wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:13 pm
NVSB4 wrote: A friend of mine replaced his stock horns with Balkamp 730-1058 (low note) and 730-1059 (high note) horns.
FWIW, Yesterday I went to NAPA to pick up the Balkamp horns I ordered the day before. Instead of Balkamp, they gave me FIAMM D40365 (low) and D41310 (high). Not installed yet, but I took one of them out of the package and tested it on my deep-cycle camping battery.... Plenty loud. Remains to be seen if they fit the 1500 same as the Balkamp.

I'm going to measure the total current draw on these two FIAMMs together, and compare it to the current draw of the stock 1500 horns once I have them off. If the FIAMMs draw within 5 amps of the stock horns I think I can get away with connecting them directly to the harness, but if more than that I'll have to set them up with a relay.

Will post results.....
I'm looking forward to your results! I, too, tried the Freeway Blasters and, though they're monstrously loud, they still have a nice tone. Unfortunately, as WingAdmin found, there was just no way to fit them into the OEM location without substantial modification (which ruins the sound). The set of FB's I bought will be going into the car I'm building, instead.

In looking at pics online, the ones you're getting look much thinner than the FB's, and really look like they might fit in there!! If so (and they're substantially louder than stock), your experience is going to make a LOT of GL1500 owners happy!

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Re: replacing my horn

Post by offcenter » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:43 pm

I have a set of Fiamms on another bike of mine.
They seem to draw about 6 amps per horn.
12 amps for the pair.
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Re: replacing my horn

Post by WingAdmin » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:50 pm

DenverWinger wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:05 am
bellboy40 wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:13 pm
NVSB4 wrote: A friend of mine replaced his stock horns with Balkamp 730-1058 (low note) and 730-1059 (high note) horns.
FWIW, Yesterday I went to NAPA to pick up the Balkamp horns I ordered the day before. Instead of Balkamp, they gave me FIAMM D40365 (low) and D41310 (high). Not installed yet, but I took one of them out of the package and tested it on my deep-cycle camping battery.... Plenty loud. Remains to be seen if they fit the 1500 same as the Balkamp.

I'm going to measure the total current draw on these two FIAMMs together, and compare it to the current draw of the stock 1500 horns once I have them off. If the FIAMMs draw within 5 amps of the stock horns I think I can get away with connecting them directly to the harness, but if more than that I'll have to set them up with a relay.

Will post results.....
Even if the OEM wiring (and switch) will support the new horns, I think you'll find they are louder if you power them from the battery through a relay, and trigger the relay with the OEM wiring. More current = louder horns, and the tiny 18 gauge wire used by Honda restricts current. When I put Freeway Blasters on my GL1100, the OEM wiring couldn't supply enough current to even get them to make any sound other than a "click".

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Re: replacing my horn

Post by DenverWinger » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:54 am

You got a good point there, especially since the entire idea is to get as much volume out of these things as possible.....

I guess while I'm in the relay business I'll add another to power the ICU direct from battery. This bike is another one that doesn't like to fire the plugs while the starter is running, even with AGM battery.

I liked the review on your new source for relays, they seem pretty bulletproof. I haven't had need to pull any out of the fuse/relay block yet, so haven't got a good look at the terminals. And the photos in the "store" don't really give a size scale to them. Are the terminals on these relays friendly to standard "Spade" clips? If so, they'd be ideal for the horns and ICU power... I might have to order some.
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Re: replacing my horn

Post by DenverWinger » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:29 am

DenverWinger wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:05 am

FWIW, Yesterday I went to NAPA to pick up the Balkamp horns I ordered the day before. Instead of Balkamp, they gave me FIAMM D40365 (low) and D41310 (high). Not installed yet, but I took one of them out of the package and tested it on my deep-cycle camping battery.... Plenty loud. Remains to be seen if they fit the 1500 same as the Balkamp.

Will post results.....
The Fiamms fit perfectly! And they are a good improvement over the "meep-meep" of the OEM horns. Not quite as loud as I hoped, but well worth the 30 bucks.

I did install a relay, fused at 20 amps direct from the battery to the horns, energized by the original wiring to the OEM horns. It lives in the back of the left fairing pocket....

Too many little fuse holders by the battery box now, need to find one of those nifty looking power distribution add-on strips I've seen posted here.......
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Re: replacing my horn

Post by Corkster52 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:40 pm

I temporarily hooked up my new Freeway Blaster (jumpers and wire nuts), gave it a quick toot and WOW...that sucker is loud. :o Woe is the driver I see creeping into my lane :twisted:

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Re: replacing my horn

Post by CrystalPistol » Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:09 pm

cbx4evr wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:23 pm
Most folks go with some sort of air horn. There were a couple on my bike when I bought it that I removed. Didn't like the look. I would prefer something that fits in the OEM location or that is not visable.
Had two sets on trike when we bought it, so loud it would spook riders behind me I'm told, definitely LOUD on us. Took left side ones & compressor off, left right side on. OEM horns just unhooked. Compressor strapped to frame down tube. Rivco. Thinking I might mount the extra set under rear pointed back towards followers on a separate button.


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Re: replacing my horn

Post by in2it » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:55 pm

Has anyone heard of this air horn ???
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