Replacing relay #3


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Replacing relay #3

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Hey guys. Do you have to loosen or remove the left storage compartment to get into the relay panel to change relays ? Am I not seeing an easier way?


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You got it.no easy way.I think I just removed the 4 or so bolts in the saddle bag compartment to get a little more wiggle room.
Removing the whole thing is tedious.

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To do it properly..remove the lower trunk panel, this allows the left saddlebag to be removed easily. The remove the 4 bolts from the saddlebag and back it off....
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Thanks. I was sort of expecting a no easy way out answer. I will tackle that later today or tomorrow when I should be getting my new relay
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HOWEVER...it is possible to remove Relay #3 with removing the saddlebag at all...it's just a bit harder to grasp the relay!
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Can't even get the cover off the relax box.
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I was able to get it off once without loosening the saddlebag through lots of wiggling and pulling - but I couldn't get it back on.

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Thanks ,tomorrow I'm going to bite the bullet & take my time & remove or loosen the side saddle bag. Good news is that when I turned the key on today, it displayed exactly the problem I wanted to fix.So tomorrow I will give relay #3 a good rap & see if it comes to life. Hope that is it because I already ordered a new overpriced one from the dealer.
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sczinege wrote:Thanks ,tomorrow I'm going to bite the bullet & take my time & remove or loosen the side saddle bag. Good news is that when I turned the key on today, it displayed exactly the problem I wanted to fix.So tomorrow I will give relay #3 a good rap & see if it comes to life. Hope that is it because I already ordered a new overpriced one from the dealer.
I posted all my observations under - electrical problems 97 GL 1500. Ended up I had time so I removed the seat and the saddle bag.
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I'm having fuel gauge problems. I'm almost sure the gauge is bad. Does anyone know what the voltage is at the fuel sensor is suppose to be. Im getting about 4 volts. They relay is 12v.
The temp gauge seams fine. Sensor is good. Just trying to verify voltage is good or not.
Any help is appreciated.

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just my 2 cents worth but you should look into this if you are having to replace relay #3 I had to replace mine last year and recently I have been having issues with the tail lights/ fuel gauge not coming on when I start the bike sometimes, (pretty sure that is relay #3) a min or so later they would pop on and then stay on, well I had my relay cover loose so I found when that happened I could just shake the cover a little and they would come on. OK fast forward to a week or so later and I am doing some major rewiring of all my driving lights and all the wiring for my trailer light cord as well as lights for the side car. long story short years of just adding more and more lights each with it's own wiring had become a wiring nightmare, not unsafe just too much. any way I decided to go in and see what the problem was with relay 3, what I found was the main power prong for the lights not on the relay but in the panel was just a little melted. and it was letting the relay wiggle and this had created a little heat corrosion, so when I installed the new relay I took a large tie strap and went around the relay, I was able to go down beside the relay under it and back up to the top, there are slots in the main base that lets the strap line up perfect, I actually did it from the bottom up and back down so the cinch part is under the relay with the wires this way it pulled the relay tight as well as pulling the wires on the base under the relay tight and I could still put the cover back on with no problems. even thought all my added lights on the taillight circuit were LED I went ahead and removed them and wired them to their own switch with their own relay. I'm guessing all those years with the added load was just a little more than it could handle you have to remove the fuse block to do this but that's just a couple little bolts and a little wiggling to get it out enough to work with it

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Gauge is easy to test. Disconnect the sending unit wire, the gauge will read all the way one way, ground that wire, the gauge will read the other way. I can't remember which way reads full and which empty, but it will be obvious. If you get no motion or mid-scale readings, the gauge or wiring has a fault. If the gauge tests ok, but fuel qty readings are wrong or intermittent, remove the sending unit and clean it. A soak in vinegar will often bring them back.



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