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Bobwquinn
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Speedometer

Post by Bobwquinn » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:39 am



Hi there!

My 97 GL1500's odometer & speedometer stopped working yesterday. I've checked all the fuses and none are burnt. I've noticed that the turn signals work however do not shut off after turning. Any suggestions?

Bob



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Re: Speedometer

Post by wingpilot08 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:10 am

The speedometer on the 1500 is not electrical, but uses a speedometer cable that connects to the front wheel. Check your cable! That would also cause your turnsignals not to automatically turn off. Bad cable, bad!
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Re: Speedometer

Post by Erdeniz Umman » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:33 am

wingpilot08 wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:10 am
The speedometer on the 1500 is not electrical, but uses a speedometer cable that connects to the front wheel. Check your cable! That would also cause your turnsignals not to automatically turn off. Bad cable, bad!
And, if it is not the cable then it may be the plastic gear in the speedometer gear box on the wheel.

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Re: Speedometer

Post by virgilmobile » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:24 am

And your cruise won't work either

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Re: Speedometer

Post by gford » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:32 pm

I lost my speedometer (99 SE) same symptoms as you and replacing the cable didn't fix the problem, actually it broke the new cable immediately. I disconnected the cable from the back of the speedometer and inserted a screw diver into the head and tried to turn it but it was frozen solid. When I removed the speedometer the head was frozen solid with crude. A couple of years ago i greased the speed cable with wheel bearing grease. The grease worked its way into the speedometer head and once the oil was used up the wax formed a crude and seized the head. Cleaned the head out with a plastic safe spray cleaner and worked it with a screw driver while spraying and the thing freed up as good a new.

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Re: Speedometer

Post by Happytrails » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:28 pm

Just had to replace mine. Couldn't get it loose and had to take front of bike apart to get to it. Replaced the speakers while I was in there. Parts were fairly cheap. And new speakers sound a lot better.
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Re: Speedometer

Post by Bobwquinn » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:58 pm

Tks for all possibilities. Will try to fix soon!

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Re: Speedometer

Post by Mag » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:54 am

Mine did the same thing (no speed, no mileage, no cancel on turn signal)......great way to rack up mileage without racking up mileage, lol. I did lube up the speedo cable a couple years ago but it finally bit the dust. When you take off the speedo cable, check to see if it turns easily.

And yes, since I had to get to teh back of the instrument cluster, new speakers were added to the front, lol. Amazing how one repair leads to 3 other improvements.

Good luck!

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Re: Speedometer

Post by Happytrails » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:38 pm

Mag wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:54 am
... since I had to get to teh back of the instrument cluster, new speakers were added to the front, lol. Amazing how one repair leads to 3 other improvements.
yup. A little tlc for our beautiful bikes. Not to derail things but what speakers did you end up going with? And wow just noticed your riding an '88! Thats awesome. :D
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Re: Speedometer

Post by Mag » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:04 pm

The previous owner had panasonic 3ohm 100 watt in the front, I purchased the waterproof J&M 3 ohm 100 matching on the Cyclemax site (they are fantastic as always) and moved the panasonics to the rear. Found the J&M, though they say it is front speaker, it is not an exact fit due to a plastic ring (for lack of better words) so the dash sticks out just a bit from the instrument cluster. Sound-wise, I now have back speakers working and will probably upgrade with an amp, etc. for next year to get a little more bang. Unfortunately it is not just Margaritaville music I listen too, a lot of louder 70s-80s long hair too, definitely get looks.

Oh, and I have instruction from admin on putting Sirius on the bike, I have one of the Stratus 4 units that I can move to different cars and boomboxes (I have two of them) so I can save on subscription.

Lotsa plans, lotsa plans. And the 88, now that I did a lot of work on it rides really smooth, really enjoy it and it does giddiup and go for sure. This is not a recent pic, I need to figure out the avatar issues on this site to put up new pic with all the bike changes.

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Re: Speedometer

Post by Happytrails » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:25 pm

Mag wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:04 pm
... music I listen too, a lot of louder 70s-80s long hair too, definitely get looks.
lol same here. Its good stuff. And always thought your sig picture was really a good one. :D

After getting the dash apart to install a new cable (taking a lot of parts off and replacing those crap phillips heads with ss cap bolts on the mirrors) and I noticed those front speakers were 5" that was a little bit of a problem. Ended up trying out Rockford Fosgates with baffles only the shallow type was all I could find on short notice. Front and back it sounds so much better. Made some tweaks to the rear and they sound really good. Found some deeper baffles for the front on ebay. Will give those a try. I've been considering adding an amp and equalizer too. Maybe even 6.5s in the rear. But want to try all the small things first. Just keep tweaking. Maybe add a little poly fill. Maybe add an aux output. But riding down the road its nice to actually hear the stereo now.
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Re: Speedometer

Post by Mag » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:36 am

Here Here on that HappyT....funny on riding.....I like to listen to the tunes when I am riding but due to where I live, Satellite radio is the best option (so I can listen to music or sports) and keep on tuning. I remember when I was running through Oregon/Washington on an east/west state thing, and was able to get the baseball games up here, and it was very cool.

Regarding the changing of the screws, I always try to put back the same of what I found, and I have Ace Hardware replacement screws in for ones I have lost in cracks in the garage or what ever, I get too paranoid (since I am not a mechanic by any means but could play one on TV) that I would be dropping parts and pieces down the highway somewhere. From repaint, to maintenance, to new chrome and sound, and also "what is that rubbing sound near the front wheel", pretty proud of what was done to 88 so far.

.....and if I can figure why I am now not able to post pics, I would show one (another thing to fix today, ugh)

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Re: Speedometer

Post by Bobwquinn » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:21 am

I changed my speedometer and works perfectly. I'm glad it wasn't the speedometer hub gear! Thanks for the well documented pics as it was great to read before attempting it!

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Re: Speedometer

Post by Erdeniz Umman » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:32 am

Bobwquinn wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:21 am
I changed my speedometer and works perfectly. I'm glad it wasn't the speedometer hub gear! Thanks for the well documented pics as it was great to read before attempting it!
I think you meant speedometer cable.

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Re: Speedometer

Post by Happytrails » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:23 am

Bobwquinn wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:21 am
I changed my speedometer and works perfectly. I'm glad it wasn't the speedometer hub gear! Thanks for the well documented pics as it was great to read before attempting it!
Congrats. Seems like that plastic gear hub is a fail piece so that other parts wouldn't get damaged.
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Re: Speedometer

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:07 pm

Happytrails wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:23 am
Bobwquinn wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:21 am
I changed my speedometer and works perfectly. I'm glad it wasn't the speedometer hub gear! Thanks for the well documented pics as it was great to read before attempting it!
Congrats. Seems like that plastic gear hub is a fail piece so that other parts wouldn't get damaged.
Correct. It's the intentional weakest link.

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Re: Speedometer

Post by samellring » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:14 am

Well, after reading this post as well as searching through the Tech Talk, my situation is a little different as only my odometer seems to not be working. All other instruments are working perfectly, including the speedometer and trip meter. I did not see any link on the 'How-to' (i.e. step-by-steps with pictures) to fix (IF possible). Unfortunately, I am NOT a mechanic, but have worked on doing most easy maintenance items (oil, air filter, clutch/brake fluid, fuel filter, etc...). I am hoping that this is not a time consuming project or gets above my technical skills.

Any assistance/ideas/suggestions and solutions are greatly appreciated!
Sincerely,
Scott Mellring

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Re: Speedometer

Post by WingAdmin » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:40 am

samellring wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:14 am
Well, after reading this post as well as searching through the Tech Talk, my situation is a little different as only my odometer seems to not be working. All other instruments are working perfectly, including the speedometer and trip meter. I did not see any link on the 'How-to' (i.e. step-by-steps with pictures) to fix (IF possible). Unfortunately, I am NOT a mechanic, but have worked on doing most easy maintenance items (oil, air filter, clutch/brake fluid, fuel filter, etc...). I am hoping that this is not a time consuming project or gets above my technical skills.

Any assistance/ideas/suggestions and solutions are greatly appreciated!
Getting to it isn't the easiest job in the world, but if you can find a replacement odometer, you could remove the old one and replace it. This How-To (which is actually about putting LEDs in your dash) shows the procedure to get to and disassemble the dash:

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=10998

You might even be able to reset the new one to match the mileage on the existing one before installing it.

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Re: Speedometer

Post by samellring » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:09 am

Thank you very much for the quick response and information. Since you mentioned "once you find one", I am believing that this in itself may be hard to find due to the age of the 1500s in general?
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Scott Mellring

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Re: Speedometer

Post by Erdeniz Umman » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:25 am

samellring wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:14 am
Well, after reading this post as well as searching through the Tech Talk, my situation is a little different as only my odometer seems to not be working. All other instruments are working perfectly, including the speedometer and trip meter. I did not see any link on the 'How-to' (i.e. step-by-steps with pictures) to fix (IF possible). Unfortunately, I am NOT a mechanic, but have worked on doing most easy maintenance items (oil, air filter, clutch/brake fluid, fuel filter, etc...). I am hoping that this is not a time consuming project or gets above my technical skills.

Any assistance/ideas/suggestions and solutions are greatly appreciated!
Probably one of the the plastic gears inside has been damaged or worn out.
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Re: Speedometer

Post by samellring » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:34 am

Okay, thank you for the reply.


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