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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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I'm running my second Austone Taxi Tire on my 93 GL1500I. It needs replaced, approaching the wear bars in the center tread.

My Interstate came with a single air shock. I have to keep that air shock at its maximum pressure and it does NOT bottom out with my 180 lbs. riding solo. When I say bottom out, I know that it is rubbing hard on the plastic fender liner (can see those rub marks with the tire removed).

When I add my 130 lb. wife to the back, it bottoms out much more, even on light expansion joints, like over a bridge and whatnot like pot holes and dips in the road. Very aggravating and I refuse to put up with it any longer.

For those reasons, I am going to a different car tire, likely the 195/55-16 Yoko (which I had previously run on my Valkyrie).


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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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Earl43P wrote: Fri May 11, 2018 8:10 am I'm running my second Austone Taxi Tire on my 93 GL1500I. It needs replaced, approaching the wear bars in the center tread.

My Interstate came with a single air shock. I have to keep that air shock at its maximum pressure and it does NOT bottom out with my 180 lbs. riding solo. When I say bottom out, I know that it is rubbing hard on the plastic fender liner (can see those rub marks with the tire removed).

When I add my 130 lb. wife to the back, it bottoms out much more, even on light expansion joints, like over a bridge and whatnot like pot holes and dips in the road. Very aggravating and I refuse to put up with it any longer.

For those reasons, I am going to a different car tire, likely the 195/55-16 Yoko (which I had previously run on my Valkyrie).
Earl43P wrote: Fri May 11, 2018 8:10 am I'm running my second Austone Taxi Tire on my 93 GL1500I. It needs replaced, approaching the wear bars in the center tread.

My Interstate came with a single air shock. I have to keep that air shock at its maximum pressure and it does NOT bottom out with my 180 lbs. riding solo. When I say bottom out, I know that it is rubbing hard on the plastic fender liner (can see those rub marks with the tire removed).

When I add my 130 lb. wife to the back, it bottoms out much more, even on light expansion joints, like over a bridge and whatnot like pot holes and dips in the road. Very aggravating and I refuse to put up with it any longer.

For those reasons, I am going to a different car tire, likely the 195/55-16 Yoko (which I had previously run on my Valkyrie).
Thanks for your feedback, it sounds like the Austone won't work for me as my wife's and my combined weight is a bit more than yours when riding double.
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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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Earl43P wrote: Fri May 11, 2018 8:10 am I'm running my second Austone Taxi Tire on my 93 GL1500I. It needs replaced, approaching the wear bars in the center tread.

My Interstate came with a single air shock. I have to keep that air shock at its maximum pressure and it does NOT bottom out with my 180 lbs. riding solo. When I say bottom out, I know that it is rubbing hard on the plastic fender liner (can see those rub marks with the tire removed).

When I add my 130 lb. wife to the back, it bottoms out much more, even on light expansion joints, like over a bridge and whatnot like pot holes and dips in the road. Very aggravating and I refuse to put up with it any longer.

For those reasons, I am going to a different car tire, likely the 195/55-16 Yoko (which I had previously run on my Valkyrie).
Earl... you are the first one I have heard say the tire rubs when riding two up or with a heavy load. That tire is only about 1 inch taller then stock so that equates to 1/2 inch taller on either side. Are you telling us that the stock Honda tire is running that close a clearance ? I really don't think so. Maybe it is time for a suspension rebuild on your bike, it may be sagging way to much.
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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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I'm wanting to try this tire on my GL15oo trike as it's not really a motorcycle and I have a trike kit making it difficult to get at the tire. I can't seem to locate the Austone tire on any any site. Is there anyone out there that can help me with me with information about the tire or a suitable substitute? I was a Darkside rider on my 99 Interstate for a couple years. Great on the Freeway, not so great in the city. Should be excellent on a trike. I was able to lift my Valk up from being down with motorcycle tires but not so with the car tire.
Thankyou in advance for any information.
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mikemcd wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:01 am I'm wanting to try this tire on my GL15oo trike as it's not really a motorcycle and I have a trike kit making it difficult to get at the tire. I can't seem to locate the Austone tire on any any site. Is there anyone out there that can help me with me with information about the tire or a suitable substitute? I was a Darkside rider on my 99 Interstate for a couple years. Great on the Freeway, not so great in the city. Should be excellent on a trike. I was able to lift my Valk up from being down with motorcycle tires but not so with the car tire.
Thankyou in advance for any information.
The Austone Taxi Tire is no longer available in the US. There is a new alternative, however: viewtopic.php?p=348530#p348530
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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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I can't thank you enough, I ordered mine. Thanks again.
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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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mikemcd wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:22 am I can't thank you enough, I ordered mine. Thanks again.
Be sure to post up how it does. I have not seen any reviews of the tire yet, but it appears to be a near identical tire to the Austone.
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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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I'm in too, and will report back. At what pressure should I run it?
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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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erkmann wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:44 pm I'm in too, and will report back. At what pressure should I run it?
Depends.
The tire you choose, how much you weigh, how much gear you pack, one up or two up, bike/suspension mods, personal preference, etc all make a difference.

Many will say set your initial pressure @ 40 psi and ride for a few hundred miles to get the tire "broken in" and get used to the different feeling with a darkside tire.
Then you start adjusting the pressure by 2 psi up or down and see how if feels compared to the 40 PSI.
Some ride as low 32 psi, some as high as 50 (never exceed the max pressure on the sidewall).

Pressure adjustment directions from the "darkside" forum:

To All:

From time to time you have heard me speak of the "sweet spot", that particular PSI that is perfect for your bike/tire/rider combination. Hopefully some of the information below will be interesting and useful to you.

Ah, the "sweet spot". "Where the heck do I find it?"

Once you put 500 miles on your new DS tire it will be broken in. Then it is time to find the "sweet spot". Find a nice 45 mph sweeping curve. Start with a tire pressure of 40#, make a couple of passes, reduce pressure 2#, make a couple of passes, reduce pressure by 2#, keep doing this until you find the special PSI that feels best on your ride, to you.

The weight of the bike, the weight of the rider, and the specific tire, all figure into what the "Sweet Spot" is for your ride.

Example: 2 LC1500's, same size riders, one bike a Goodyear Assurance Tripletread sweet spot = 32#PSI. The other a General Altimax sweet spot = 42# PSI.

So just because someone else's sweet spot is 32#, it doesn't mean that yours will be.

Later, BIGFOOT


Remember, tire pressures should be checked and adjusted with the tires cold before you start riding for the day.
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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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Thanks for all of that. I'm looking forward to trying it out.
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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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Ravyn wrote: Fri May 11, 2018 10:05 pm
Earl43P wrote: Fri May 11, 2018 8:10 am I'm running my second Austone Taxi Tire on my 93 GL1500I. It needs replaced, approaching the wear bars in the center tread.

My Interstate came with a single air shock. I have to keep that air shock at its maximum pressure and it does NOT bottom out with my 180 lbs. riding solo. When I say bottom out, I know that it is rubbing hard on the plastic fender liner (can see those rub marks with the tire removed).

When I add my 130 lb. wife to the back, it bottoms out much more, even on light expansion joints, like over a bridge and whatnot like pot holes and dips in the road. Very aggravating and I refuse to put up with it any longer.

For those reasons, I am going to a different car tire, likely the 195/55-16 Yoko (which I had previously run on my Valkyrie).
Earl... you are the first one I have heard say the tire rubs when riding two up or with a heavy load. That tire is only about 1 inch taller then stock so that equates to 1/2 inch taller on either side. Are you telling us that the stock Honda tire is running that close a clearance ? I really don't think so. Maybe it is time for a suspension rebuild on your bike, it may be sagging way to much.
I sold that 93 along with a low time air shock and regular shock that I had bought but never installed (removed for a trike installation).

Hope the new owner installed those per my advice; he was bigger than I am. It’s Austin’s needed replacement. But yes the rubbing / bottoming got old quickly with my wife aboard.
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I run about 38 pounds of pressure in my Austone rear tire.
So far, I have around 14,000 miles on it and it is nowhere near worn out.
I love it.
I have two more in stock since they aren't for sale here anymore.
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175R16 Maxxis Blackwall

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Regarding 'new kid on the block', the 175R16 Maxxis Blackwall from Universal Vintage Tire Company.

Initial impressions:
1. Couldn't find anyone interested in swapping out the rubber, so I spooned them on myself. 40psi was not enough to seat the bead so went well beyond that recommended max but yes, the tire eventually seated just fine
2. 3 oz beads
3. mounted to my 1999 GL1500 without difficulty
4. started at 40psi
5. no rubs
6. after first 50 miles: I was expecting a radical change in ride, but it went very smoothly. Slow speed, highway speed, no issues. I'll stick with 40psi for now, at 220 lbs and always 1-up
7. Wow. Sure is easy to get up on the center stand!
8. I'll report back after a few hundred miles
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erkmann wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:11 pm Regarding 'new kid on the block', the 175R16 Maxxis Blackwall from Universal Vintage Tire Company.

Initial impressions:
1. Couldn't find anyone interested in swapping out the rubber, so I spooned them on myself. 40psi was not enough to seat the bead so went well beyond that recommended max but yes, the tire eventually seated just fine
2. 3 oz beads
3. mounted to my 1999 GL1500 without difficulty
4. started at 40psi
5. no rubs
6. after first 50 miles: I was expecting a radical change in ride, but it went very smoothly. Slow speed, highway speed, no issues. I'll stick with 40psi for now, at 220 lbs and always 1-up
7. Wow. Sure is easy to get up on the center stand!
8. I'll report back after a few hundred miles
Thanks for the info. Any pics?

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175R16 Maxxis Blackwall

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my last tire was an Elite 4


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erkmann wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:01 pm my last tire was an Elite 4IMG_6639.JPG
Thanks.
I am also running an Elite 4 right now.
That tire sure does look pretty round to me.
This puts me about 90% sure I am going with the Maxxis when the time comes next year for a rear tire (I am 100% doing darkside, was wanting the Dunlop Winter Sport3D RunOnFlat, but it is not being made in the correct size any more).

Is the tire completely off the ground on the centerstand?
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Maxxis Blackwall

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My GL1500 rear wheel with the Maxxis Blackwell touches the ground when on the center stand, cannot be rotated e.g. to find the valve stem. Did 200 miles today. Can't say I notice much difference between the Maxwell and my Elite 4 other than it just feels a little 'different'. No better, no worse, and after 200 miles I was carving through the twisties without any concerns. Whether parking lot or interstate at 80mph, the Maxxis handled very well.
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erkmann wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:11 pm My GL1500 rear wheel with the Maxxis Blackwell touches the ground when on the center stand, cannot be rotated e.g. to find the valve stem. Did 200 miles today. Can't say I notice much difference between the Maxwell and my Elite 4 other than it just feels a little 'different'. No better, no worse, and after 200 miles I was carving through the twisties without any concerns. Whether parking lot or interstate at 80mph, the Maxxis handled very well.
My Austone Taxi Tire is the same - it just barely touches the ground on the center stand.

I park my bike with the center stand on a piece of 3/4" plywood, which lifts the wheel enough to let me rotate it.
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OK, guess it is not a big deal that the tire still touches while on the center stand, as mentioned, I can use a piece of plywood under the center stand for maintenance when needed.
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I've put 2500 miles on my Maxxis Blackwall now. Very smooth, no issues, can't really tell any difference between it and the Elite 4 it replaced. Time for a new front tire, tho. Only got 7K out of my Avon Cobra Chrome, whereas Elite 4 (front) had given me 11K. Does anyone have a solid favorite for GL1500 front? I'm not ready for double dark...yet.
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I have heard of using the BT45,

on my 1800 I used an Avon Roadrider on the front.

two tires for the rear, on separate wheels.
I can change back & forth in 5 minutes.


E4 and a just acquired DSST that will go on, the first warm day.

https://tiresize.com/tires/Dunlop/SP-Wi ... -60R16.htm

it is slightly smaller in diameter, show should help to correct for the 6 mph error at 60 mph.

the 1800 gets the speedo info from the driveshaft.
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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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On the front, I have been running the Michelin Commander II.
The first one lasted almost 20,000 miles.
The second went just over 18,000.
Only have 2,000 on the current (third) one so far.
By the end of next summer, that one should be
nearly worn out.
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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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WingAdmin wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:35 pm The stock 160/80-16 rear tire has a diameter of 26.08 inches. The Austone Taxi Tire has a diameter of 26.90 inches. So the difference between the two diameters is 0.82 inches. Half that is 0.41 inches, which is how much higher the bike would sit with the Austone.
Uh . . .not necessarily.

Those diameters are for the tire with no weight on it.

Each tire handles a specific weight differently. The only way to know is to measure the height to axle center on each tire type, with normal load on the tire.
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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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so about to install my 175R16 Maxxis Blackwall and was going to give balance beads a try.
What are others using? I was thinking 3oz, but not positive if that is correct.
Looks like 2 oz is what is suggested for the OEM size, but I think the taxi tire has a little more mass so it would need a little more.
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Re: Austone Taxi Tire

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The formula that I've seen is 1 oz for every 13 lbs of total weight of tire and wheel.


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