Bike wouldn't start


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NLRHINO
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Bike wouldn't start

Post by NLRHINO » Mon May 21, 2018 2:29 am



I have a '95 Wing. It wouldn't start. I had power to everything. It started eventually, but took some patience. It happened once before, managed to get it going with a push. The battery is fully charged. Any ideas? Thanks guys.



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Re: Bike wouldn't start

Post by Earl43P » Mon May 21, 2018 1:51 pm

My 93 does that when the battery is less than fully charged, or after several failed start attempts (when it has been sitting for weeks).

It'll crank at a good speed but there is evidently insufficient amperage to fire the coils.
I know this is the case because it will start right up when I add jumper cables from a not-running car's battery.

It will sometimes fire up when I simply don't crank very long.
A quick burst of starter button pressing and using various choke settings usually results in it "firing up" just after releasing the starter switch. Like a two-second crank at full choke, release, 1/2 choke, repeat, 3/4 choke, release, repeat 1-2 seconds, release, it starts.

If mine has been sitting (which it sometimes does, for months), even if on the tender - I just jump start it.
If it hasn't been sitting and ridden regularly, it fires up easily.
I think a lot of the difficulty is from the ethanol in gas /stirs pot/
When all else fails, RTFM!

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Re: Bike wouldn't start

Post by NLRHINO » Mon May 21, 2018 3:23 pm

Thanks for the tips friend. I'll keep those in mind should it happen again. Cheers!

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Re: Bike wouldn't start

Post by Mh434 » Mon May 21, 2018 5:26 pm

If the battery is a standard, lead acid battery, and it's less than pretty much brand new, this type of starting problem is common. When they're virtually new & 100% charged, they'll generally spin the bike over and start it. When the battery is a couple of years old & no longer is at original max capacity, even when it's fully charged it may have enough to spin the engine, or to fire the ignition, but not both.

Commonly, if you're cranking it, it may start just at the instant you release the "start" button...because the engine's still turning, and none of the battery power is being used for the starter, so there may be enough to fire the ignition & start the bike.

I heartily recommend an AGM-type battery. They have much better capacity, last longer, and can start a bike even when they're down on charge a little. Couple an AGM with an aftermarket high-output alternator (the OEM ones are extremely marginal, if when they're working perfectly), and starting problems will become a dim & distant memory. These starting issues may not seem like much at home, in the garage, but when you're 300 miles from home on the side of the road in a rain storm, with no civilization within a hundred miles, and your bike cranks over but won't start, you'll be wishing you did the upgrade. Ask me how I know!!

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Re: Bike wouldn't start

Post by NLRHINO » Mon May 21, 2018 5:33 pm

Thanks for the reply buddy. You seem to have dealt with it before lol. I'll check it out. All the best

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Re: Bike wouldn't start

Post by wingdings » Thu May 24, 2018 2:34 pm

hi - saw your post try this -

to get you out of jail !! :D :D :D :D

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Re: Bike wouldn't start

Post by NLRHINO » Thu May 24, 2018 2:45 pm

Good Lord. That's a neat little trick. I'll have to remember that...and a clean pair of shorts in case I give myself a good jolt. Thanks!!

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Re: Bike wouldn't start

Post by wingdings » Thu May 24, 2018 2:59 pm

your more than welcome !! - just make sure you use a insulated screwdriver - you should be covered for upto 10,000 volts if you do - lol the bad starting could be the starter solenoid relay b - yes there are 2 starter solenoids on the 1500 - view topic viewtopic.php?f=6&t=42339 - your wing will not start if the battery voltage go's below 11volts better buy a agm battery such as a motorblatt and install a volt meter in the dash - view topic viewtopic.php?f=14&t=36120

hope this helps fella !!! :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Bike wouldn't start

Post by WingAdmin » Wed May 30, 2018 9:17 am

Only 12 volts there, and it's DC, you aren't going to get a jolt from that. Worst thing that could happen would be to get your finger in where the spark is and burn it a bit. Make sure you aren't touching the frame at the same time as you touch the solenoid terminal, or you'll get a BIG spark and then everything will die!

Incidentally, this only works if the bike is already turned on with the key. Doing it without the key turned on will crank the engine, but it won't actually start the bike.



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