Engine Oil SAE 5W40


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Engine Oil SAE 5W40

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Someone gave me a can of (full synthetic) Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 engine oil to use in my 1996 GL1500SE.

As this is normally an oil used in cars, I wondered if it could do harm in my GL1500.
Honda advises to use an SF or SG specified oil as where the Shell oil is SH/CF.

I'm not so concerned about the viscosity as the 5W only improves cold starts.
It's more the chemicals that makes me wonder.

Shell recommends this Helix oil for Porches and Ferrari's, which are high performance cars.
As we Wingers only do maximum 5500 rpm, I don't really think this is a problem.

Can anyone solve this mystery for me :?:

Grtz,

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Re: Engine Oil SAE 5W40

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I would not use a synthetic oil (which normally contain friction modifiers) in any engine that has a wet clutch that is lubricated with engine oil. That includes most motorcycles.

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Thanx for the answer.

It complies however to the ACEA A3 standard in the (motorcycle)oil I've used
over the last 13 years.

What harn could it doe.
I thought most cars have a wet clutch as well, but i could be wrong here.

You have any idea, because I kinda lose track here.

Grtz

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Nope, most cars (with standard transmissions) have dry clutches.

Cars with automatic transmissions have wet clutches, but they are lubricated by transmission fluid, not engine oil.

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I use full syn rotella T in all my bikes have for many years. Insure that the energy conservating label in not on the rear of the oil container on the type/ circle label. Next time you are in a parts store or wally world look on the back of rotella t syn and compare it to a regular oil bottle you will see what I am talkin about. I only change it at 8000 mile intervals. 48.000 on the VTX 1800 and 105.000 on the wing and 20.000 on the VT 750. They run much smoother with the syn in them. Also ran it in my 82,86,94 an 96 wings all had over 100.000 on them at selling time. :D

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I also use Rotella T synthetic in my GL1500I. Have 94,000 miles on it without any problems. I have a friend with a 96 1500 who tried it but he said his bike didn't like it, so he went back to Honda oil. Guess bikes have different tastes to. :D

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10 year old post!! I am new member in this forum so i have many posts to read :D But you should ALWAYS use an oil that is JASO classified in a wet clutch. The engine dont care if you put an car speced oil in it BUT the clutch maybe dont like it..

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I've heard that the Rotella T6 now comes in two different flavors, one that we know and love, the other flavor won't be well liked by the clutch.

So if you like T6, just be sure to confirm the JASO rating and the API donut on it to be sure you got the right one.
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DenverWinger wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:27 pm
I've heard that the Rotella T6 now comes in two different flavors, one that we know and love, the other flavor won't be well liked by the clutch.

So if you like T6, just be sure to confirm the JASO rating and the API donut on it to be sure you got the right one.
I use T6 in 5w40 and the circle is blank in the lower half.
good shifting characteristics.
the oil pressure light is usually OFF by the time the engine fires up on my gl1800.

Flyone called me yesterday, to report that his 1800 trike has never shifted as good as it does now, after changing to T6 5w40 per my recommendation/history.
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I also use T6 5w40. The engine is extremely quiet and the shifts are very smooth.

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Exactly what I use, too. Have started using it in everything else as well, except for GF's Hyundai, that calls for the 20w stuff....
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DenverWinger wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:24 pm
Exactly what I use, too. Have started using it in everything else as well, except for GF's Hyundai, that calls for the 20w stuff....
I use 5w20 in our Pontiac Vibe as per the GM specs

I have mentioned this before:
I used to work for the City of Phoenix, AZ in the fire department.
Temps there can reach the 120s...

I was at the city's maintenance facility talking to a supervisor and asked why all of the old hoses have been removed that were marked 30w and 40w.

he told me that when the new vehicles came out with the warning that the use of any oil grade other than 5w20 would void the warranty, they just made a unilateral decision that there would be the only one grade engine oil for gasoline vehicles City wide....

yup, '87 Chevy Impalas, '80 pickup trucks, whatever.... they all got the new oil soup.
Over the time period of 15 years, he told me that not one vehicle ever came in the shop for damage due to lack of lubrication....

yup, all those old engines that were supposed to run 30w or 20w40, no matter, they now run on 5w20 period.... with no problems at all.


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