Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins


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Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:17 am



So it began on a rainy and gloomy early November Sunday morning. This was the day I was finally able to start taking the bike apart in order to begin some of the routine "new to me" maintenance, such as new timing belts, as well as any other routine winter maintenance items. I haven't read completely through the instructions for changing the timing belts but I did see it talks about draining the radiator so she will get new radiator fluid. On my list are new fuel filter, air cleaner, sub air cleaner, cruise control element. I will also be changing the spark plugs, doing an oil change, changing the gear oil in the rear drive shaft and checking out the appropriate lube points. It "only" took me five and a half hours to get to this point.

A few things I need to look at while it is all apart is the source of an oil leak, based on an earlier post of mine the consensus is the shifter shaft seal. I will be adding the shifter brace and swapping out the seal even if the seal isn't the cause of the leak. The bike is a 1994 with 70k miles and I'm not sure if the seal was ever replaced, but since the bike is apart let's take advantage of the situation. I also need to investigate the source of a random and sporadic radiator drip.

Now that I am this far along I can start to source the parts and install them as they arrive.

I do have one quick question - my bike didn't have a tool kit - does any one know the size of the spark plug socket?

Things that weren't on the list of things to do but may be added now include swapping out the lights for LEDs. I am leaning strongly towards a headlight modulator and will need to see which one is compatible with the LED light bulb(s) I install; ($$$)
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Getting my knowledge on!
Getting my knowledge on!




As you can see limited work space in the garage
As you can see limited work space in the garage


Evidence of a mouse, but I think (s)he was just passing through, there was no evidence of residency.
Evidence of a mouse, but I think (s)he was just passing through, there was no evidence of residency.


The oft forgotten sub-air filter.  This one was dry and brittle and fell apart when touched.
The oft forgotten sub-air filter. This one was dry and brittle and fell apart when touched.


The remains of the cruise valve filter, fell apart as I tried to remove it.
The remains of the cruise valve filter, fell apart as I tried to remove it.


The end of the day.  Since I know this is going to take numerous weekends I decided to pull the battery and hook it up to the tender in an out of the way location.
The end of the day. Since I know this is going to take numerous weekends I decided to pull the battery and hook it up to the tender in an out of the way location.





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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by bellboy40 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:52 am

It seems you have most all the items listed that should be checked while you have it torn down. You will need an 18 mm socket for the spark plugs.

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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:15 pm

bellboy40 wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:52 am
It seems you have most all the items listed that should be checked while you have it torn down. You will need an 18 mm socket for the spark plugs.
Thank you!
That is probably the one size I don't have.

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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by NOVAwing » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:58 pm

bellboy40 wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:52 am
It seems you have most all the items listed that should be checked while you have it torn down. You will need an 18 mm socket for the spark plugs.
Somethings I noticed when doing my timing belt.

1) Draining the radiator is totally not required.
Its fine if you want to do that too, it's just not required to do timing belt at all.
I found plenty of room with the hoses in place.

2) I have a fair amount of tools as a retired car mechanic.
The spark plug removal required me to use the bikes tool kit and shitty spark plug tool.
God that thing sucks!

If the spark plugs are 18mm socket, then it requires a special thin walled socket as nothing I own would fit in the hole, or fit around the spark plug.

So have fun buying an expensive thin walled 18mm socket. I know I will be getting one soon also lol.

Good luck on your maintenance.
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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:12 pm

NOVAwing wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:58 pm
bellboy40 wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:52 am
It seems you have most all the items listed that should be checked while you have it torn down. You will need an 18 mm socket for the spark plugs.
Somethings I noticed when doing my timing belt.

1) Draining the radiator is totally not required.
Its fine if you want to do that too, it's just not required to do timing belt at all.
I found plenty of room with the hoses in place.

2) I have a fair amount of tools as a retired car mechanic.
The spark plug removal required me to use the bikes tool kit and **** spark plug tool.
God that thing sucks!

If the spark plugs are 18mm socket, then it requires a special thin walled socket as nothing I own would fit in the hole, or fit around the spark plug.

So have fun buying an expensive thin walled 18mm socket. I know I will be getting one soon also lol.

Good luck on your maintenance.
I do hate draining radiators but it might be a good idea because I'm not sure how old the fluid is.

Thanks for the encouragement about the 18mm socket :lol: . I'll ask my soon to be mechanic son if he has a thin walled socket in his tool box. He recently bought some ceramic walled ones so the don't scratch the rims on the nicer cars.

Doug
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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by Jenneverett1 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:36 am

Starting my own maintenance within the next two weeks...using my phone to view and post in the forum, and it is not uploading videos or pictures... grrr
I have a 95 GL1500SE I had all body panels and all factory items such as the tool kit, radio cover, and mats in the compartments. It has the ring of fire and a switch box on the brake master. 3 switches are available for future additions.

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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by Happytrails » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:25 pm

DougEFresh1123 wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:15 pm
...That is probably the one size I don't have.
That always the way...




Changed my plugs and pretty sure I used a regular deep well 18, nothing special.

Changing the coolant isn't that bad of a job on a 1500 goldwing. One of my projects this winter is changing out the hoses. Its a pretty good teardown job. My hoses are pretty hard and 27yrs old. But I bought a new set and you know what they are hard too.

For headlights I went down the same path your thinking about. Replaced the OEM halogen bulbs with slightly brighter halogens and added a modulator. Didn't care for that at all. Then went with HIDs that were very bright and sprayed light everywhere. You know you've got a headlight problem with a lifted pickup flashes his lights at you on a sunny day. Then switched to shrouded HIDs that were much better. Then switched to LEDs. Have given much thought towards a projector setup but it would cost me some $$$. Would be fun.
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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by Jenneverett1 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:59 am

Parts bought and arriving soon.
Qty. Name Product ID Price Total
1 Oil Filter Magnets
GWR80-1144S/2 2.00 $ 2.00
1 GL1500 Air Filter
B5-415 20.30 $ 20.30
1 GL1500/GL1800/Valkyrie Oil Filter
B5-108 5.00 $ 5.00
1 GL1500 Fuel Filter
B5-602 6.00 $ 6.00
1 GL1500/Valkyrie Spark Plugs
T38-0097/6 15.00 $ 15.00
1 GL1500 Fuel Petcock Rebuild Kit
B5-601 18.20 $ 18.20
2 NEO Magnetic Drain Bolt
GWR85-8822NM 6.50 $ 13.00
1 Master Cylinder Cover Screws
H93600-04012-0G/2 1.25 $ 1.25
1 Cornering Light Replacement Bulb
B10-295 3.36 $ 3.36
1 GL1200/GL1500/Valkyrie Timing Belt Adjuster
H14510-MG9-008 78.00 $ 78.00
1 GL1500 Shifter Shaft Oil Seal
H91206-286-013 2.25 $ 2.25
Sub Total $ 164.36
Shipping / Handling $ 13.00
Sales Tax $ 0.00
Total $ 177.36
I did order a second tensioner, I have no idea why I only got one in the first order. I purchased the timing belts from amazon at $14 each..The other filters I am going to use a Briggs and Stratton as suggested in other posts... the oil I am buying locally, I will use full synthetic.
You see that I did get the magnetic plug for the oil and for the rear differential not to mention the magnets for the oil filter. The clutch master and slave are the only rebuilds I am doing this week but will do the rest in December.

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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:40 am

Jenneverett1 wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:36 am
Starting my own maintenance within the next two weeks...using my phone to view and post in the forum, and it is not uploading videos or pictures... grrr
I have a 95 GL1500SE I had all body panels and all factory items such as the tool kit, radio cover, and mats in the compartments. It has the ring of fire and a switch box on the brake master. 3 switches are available for future additions.
Sounds like an awesome looking bike, can't wait to see some pictures.
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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:03 am

Happytrails wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:25 pm
DougEFresh1123 wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:15 pm
...That is probably the one size I don't have.
That always the way... b0236.gif

Changed my plugs and pretty sure I used a regular deep well 18, nothing special.

Changing the coolant isn't that bad of a job on a 1500 goldwing. One of my projects this winter is changing out the hoses. Its a pretty good teardown job. My hoses are pretty hard and 27yrs old. But I bought a new set and you know what they are hard too.

For headlights I went down the same path your thinking about. Replaced the OEM halogen bulbs with slightly brighter halogens and added a modulator. Didn't care for that at all. Then went with HIDs that were very bright and sprayed light everywhere. You know you've got a headlight problem with a lifted pickup flashes his lights at you on a sunny day. Then switched to shrouded HIDs that were much better. Then switched to LEDs. Have given much thought towards a projector setup but it would cost me some $$$. Would be fun.
I have an 18mm deep but it doesn't have the rubber stopper, maybe I can put some blue paper towels in to protect the end :?:

I have a modulator on my Magna and love it, I really think it has stopped cars from turning across my path. I've got my wife talked into letting me change the headlight(s), corning lights, and the additional night time running lights to LED, but it has to wait until January. I can wait it's getting to cold in Chicago to ride anyways. I'll swap out the rear end in winter 2019.

Yep changing the radiator fluid doesn't look that difficult, it's really just a matter of does it need to be done? Maybe better part of wisdom says do it now while the bike is apart and then I know for sure how old all the fluids are.
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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:09 am

Jenneverett1 wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:59 am
Parts bought and arriving soon.
Qty. Name Product ID Price Total
1 Oil Filter Magnets
GWR80-1144S/2 2.00 $ 2.00
1 GL1500 Air Filter
B5-415 20.30 $ 20.30
1 GL1500/GL1800/Valkyrie Oil Filter
B5-108 5.00 $ 5.00
1 GL1500 Fuel Filter
B5-602 6.00 $ 6.00
1 GL1500/Valkyrie Spark Plugs
T38-0097/6 15.00 $ 15.00
1 GL1500 Fuel Petcock Rebuild Kit
B5-601 18.20 $ 18.20
2 NEO Magnetic Drain Bolt
GWR85-8822NM 6.50 $ 13.00
1 Master Cylinder Cover Screws
H93600-04012-0G/2 1.25 $ 1.25
1 Cornering Light Replacement Bulb
B10-295 3.36 $ 3.36
1 GL1200/GL1500/Valkyrie Timing Belt Adjuster
H14510-MG9-008 78.00 $ 78.00
1 GL1500 Shifter Shaft Oil Seal
H91206-286-013 2.25 $ 2.25
Sub Total $ 164.36
Shipping / Handling $ 13.00
Sales Tax $ 0.00
Total $ 177.36
I did order a second tensioner, I have no idea why I only got one in the first order. I purchased the timing belts from amazon at $14 each..The other filters I am going to use a Briggs and Stratton as suggested in other posts... the oil I am buying locally, I will use full synthetic.
You see that I did get the magnetic plug for the oil and for the rear differential not to mention the magnets for the oil filter. The clutch master and slave are the only rebuilds I am doing this week but will do the rest in December.
Quite a list of parts. Looks like you ordered from Cyclemax. I noticed you are replacing the shifter shaft seal, did you think about installing the shifter shaft brace? It's available from cyclemax, https://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl1500 ... 744/200181. If you go to the how-to section there is a write up on why and how to install this brace.
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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by Jenneverett1 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:31 am

I did consider the shifter brace, but mine is solid and has no play.

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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:53 am

Jenneverett1 wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:31 am
I did consider the shifter brace, but mine is solid and has no play.
That's awesome. From what I heard the shifter shaft suffers from a poor design which causes the slack/wobble and play and then the seals fails.

Doug
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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:29 pm

Looks like I will be adding new tires to the list of things to replace :roll:
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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by Happytrails » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:24 pm

DougEFresh1123 wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:03 am
I have an 18mm deep but it doesn't have the rubber stopper, maybe I can put some blue paper towels in to protect the end :?:

I have a modulator on my Magna and love it, I really think it has stopped cars from turning across my path. I've got my wife talked into letting me change the headlight(s), corning lights, and the additional night time running lights to LED, but it has to wait until January. I can wait it's getting to cold in Chicago to ride anyways. I'll swap out the rear end in winter 2019.

Yep changing the radiator fluid doesn't look that difficult, it's really just a matter of does it need to be done? Maybe better part of wisdom says do it now while the bike is apart and then I know for sure how old all the fluids are.
DougEFresh1123 wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:53 am
Jenneverett1 wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:31 am
I did consider the shifter brace, but mine is solid and has no play.
That's awesome. From what I heard the shifter shaft suffers from a poor design which causes the slack/wobble and play and then the seals fails.

Doug

When I changed em I think did a little tilting on them plugs just enough to get them up and out.

I had some bad things happened while running a modulator that made me want to take it out.

I know what you mean about the coolant. Felt the same way. You could test it if you want. When I got my bike I could tell it wasn't maintained that well. The more I went thru it the more it needed so I just sort of kept on going. Goldwings are made amazingly well but they just need a little maintenance. I think the previous owners of my bike (I think I'm the 3rd owner) just didn't know how to do it.

The shifter pivot is really nice if its in your budget. It does a terrific job of bracing that shifter arm so it rotates instead of pushing downward. It might be the most functional thing I added to my bike.



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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by WvChamp » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:45 pm

"I have an 18mm deep but it doesn't have the rubber stopper, maybe I can put some blue paper towels in to protect the end :?:"
I'm sure you know this.....but just incase.....
The rubber insert in the socket is to grab n hold onto the plug in order to retrieve. Not really a protector.
If your socket fits....loosens and also fits and tightens....just loosen the plug....grab a 3/8" ish fuel hose....insert and unscrew plug and retrieve.
Also makes a great plug installer tool. Almost impossible to cross thread the plug.

I'm sure you knew all of this. Just trying to help

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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by Rednaxs60 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:28 pm

Have enjoyed your thread so far. Bought my 1500 in July, and had a list of maintenance items such as new brake pads, clutch/brake fluid change and coolant. Coolant flush is the easiest to do on the 1500 compared to the 1200/1800 - still own my 1200, and sold my 1800.

If the clutch fluid has been sitting for a while would also recommend a rebuild of the clutch slave, lots of crud can/will build up in the clutch slave over the years.

Your list is comprehensive. If you are going to ride this 1500 for a while, an upfront suspension upgrade is highly recommended. The suspension after 24 years can/will be worn/soft. Suspension also affects tire wear. Something to consider. Did this upgrade on my 1500 and it made a world of difference. Rode the bike for almost 1500 Kms before the upgrade so I had a comparison.

God luck on the winter maintenance.

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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:22 am

Rednaxs60 wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:28 pm
Have enjoyed your thread so far. Bought my 1500 in July, and had a list of maintenance items such as new brake pads, clutch/brake fluid change and coolant. Coolant flush is the easiest to do on the 1500 compared to the 1200/1800 - still own my 1200, and sold my 1800.

If the clutch fluid has been sitting for a while would also recommend a rebuild of the clutch slave, lots of crud can/will build up in the clutch slave over the years.

Your list is comprehensive. If you are going to ride this 1500 for a while, an upfront suspension upgrade is highly recommended. The suspension after 24 years can/will be worn/soft. Suspension also affects tire wear. Something to consider. Did this upgrade on my 1500 and it made a world of difference. Rode the bike for almost 1500 Kms before the upgrade so I had a comparison.

God luck on the winter maintenance.

Cheers
Thanks for following along :D

Now that you mention it I should add flush the brakes and clutch fluid to my list of things to do. I will check out the "How-to" section about rebuilding the clutch slave and see if this is something I can handle. The bike was only sitting around for 2 years, and was kept in the garage. I know the PO and his wife and they kept talking about needing to get the bike sold so her car could go in the garage. In case you missed an earlier post of mine the PO upgraded to 2014 1800.

Was checking out the front brake pads last weekend and they look like they have quite a bit of life left, haven't gotten to the back brake but will check that out when I start working on the back end.

I do plan on riding this for awhile, but it will be mostly on the weekends with the wife. I think the susupension upgrade is going to have to wait until next winter so I can build up my cash reserves again. My daily rider is a 2002 Magna, and if the weather is bad it's a 1994 Accord. I'm beginning to think i have an addiction to Honda vehicles. :lol:
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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by Jenneverett1 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:26 am

You will be pleasantly surprised at how easy the master and slave clutch rebuild is. I will look at the brakes after getting the bike rolling for a motor check and transmission check. I have the parts for most of the maintenance needed, but before I strip her plastics off I want a road test.

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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:02 pm

Happytrails wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:24 pm
When I changed em I think did a little tilting on them plugs just enough to get them up and out.

I had some bad things happened while running a modulator that made me want to take it out.

I know what you mean about the coolant. Felt the same way. You could test it if you want. When I got my bike I could tell it wasn't maintained that well. The more I went thru it the more it needed so I just sort of kept on going. Goldwings are made amazingly well but they just need a little maintenance. I think the previous owners of my bike (I think I'm the 3rd owner) just didn't know how to do it.

The shifter pivot is really nice if its in your budget. It does a terrific job of bracing that shifter arm so it rotates instead of pushing downward. It might be the most functional thing I added to my bike.

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Thanks for the tip on tilting the plugs.

From what I have seen of the coolant it is nice and bright green, so it may be relatively new, but hey it's only a few dollars for new coolant compared to the knowledge of when the coolant was changed.

I already ordered the shifter brace, hopefully this week i can install the brace.
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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:26 pm

WvChamp wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:45 pm
"I have an 18mm deep but it doesn't have the rubber stopper, maybe I can put some blue paper towels in to protect the end :?:"
I'm sure you know this.....but just incase.....
The rubber insert in the socket is to grab n hold onto the plug in order to retrieve. Not really a protector.
If your socket fits....loosens and also fits and tightens....just loosen the plug....grab a 3/8" ish fuel hose....insert and unscrew plug and retrieve.
Also makes a great plug installer tool. Almost impossible to cross thread the plug.

I'm sure you knew all of this. Just trying to help
I'm not mechanical and I always thought the rubber stopper was designed to protect the metal end and prevent the ceramic portion from cracking. Most of the time when I change spark plugs the rubber portion never really grabs them, I almost always had to figure out a way to pull the plugs up and out.

I think I have some plastic tubing to use to pull the plugs up and out.
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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:45 pm

For those of you following along:

Is it best to lube the rear hub splines, final drive gear splines and flange pins (if a six pin flange) prior to changing the final drive oil? I'm thinking they are on opposite sides of the bike but just want to make sure.

Are there any other areas that need to be pulled apart and lubed other than the ones I just mentioned? I have read through the owners manual and didn't see anything. Want to make sure I get everything done and in the correct order so to speak.

Thanks - Doug
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- Doug

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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by bellboy40 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:54 pm

You should pull the final drive out and lube the drive shaft splines and and the pinion joint where the drive shaft plugs into the final drive. All that should be painted with some Moly paste. I would do all that first and then when you have it back together, change out the final drive gear oil.

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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by DougEFresh1123 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:02 pm

bellboy40 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:54 pm
You should pull the final drive out and lube the drive shaft splines and and the pinion joint where the drive shaft plugs into the final drive. All that should be painted with some Moly paste. I would do all that first and then when you have it back together, change out the final drive gear oil.
Thank you!
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'96 GL1500SE
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― Ronald Reagan

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Re: Doug's Winter Maintenance Begins

Post by Rednaxs60 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:05 pm

I use Loctite Moly paste LB 8012:


Drain the FD before taking out so as not to make a mess.

The u-joint where it connects to the engine output shaft needs lubed as well. You can do this by taking the u-joint boot off the engine and shove it back to get at the front end of the u-joint. If the u-joint boot is cracked, etc - it is available from Honda. There is a drive shaft lube video in the how to articles.

Even though the bike has been laid up for two years, it is the accumulation of "crud" over the past 24 years. Never know how conscientious the POs were. Drain the fluid, remove the slave from the rear of the engine, disconnect the hydraulic line. Parts are available from Honda, inexpensive. Three 8 mm bolts hold the slave to the engine.

Coolant colour is not indicative of how good the coolant is. It's the additives that are important. These deplete with time and use - heat is a major factor in affecting and reducing the effectiveness of these. The 1500 is the easiest to change out the coolant, easier than the 1200 or 1800.

I look at doing these items, as well as others such as brake pad replacement, spark plugs, etc as good initial maintenance and you know exactly when maintenance was done. I will be doing the wheel and steering stem bearings in the spring when I replace the tires.

I also keep a spreadsheet with costs (includes bike purchase, insurance, tires, oils and filters, and anything else I buy for the bike), part numbers, and maintenance done each year. Keeps me in tune with what is going on, and I can review and know when I need to do additional maintenance.

Hope this helps. Cheers


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