Which wing?


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oldcase
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Which wing?

Post by oldcase » Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:44 pm



I have been planning to ride after a 22 year break from motorcycles. My current options buy a 97 gl 1500 with > 100 k but looks ready to go, 96 with less than 50 k and some problems, or get my 79 Gl 1000 out of 22 year storage in a farm shed. Any thoughts would be appreciated.



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Re: Which wing?

Post by Big Blue UK » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:33 pm

Depends upon the "few problems", and the service history of the "Looks good to go". To me, good to go, is nothing needing servicing that is near due or overdue.
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Re: Which wing?

Post by Rednaxs60 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:50 pm

You are looking at bikes that are 22 plus years old. Cosmetic appearance is no guarantee of not needing work/maintenance, no matter what the owner provides or tells you - plastic/tupperware can hide a lot of sins. Getting a bike out of storage after 22 years is not inexpensive either.

Bought my 1500 this summer past and did approximately $1500.00 CDN on maintenance/parts replacement and it is working well. I did the timing belts, new plugs, suspension upgrade - Progressive springs front and 416 series air shocks aft. Changed the fluids - brake/clutch, coolant. New brake pads all round. Maintenance of the air system - dryer desiccant. Should do the wheel bearings and steering stem bearings as well, next work period for my 1500 will get these. This I think is a minimum requirement, suspension upgrade will make a huge difference in ride quality and performance, not a requirement but highly recommended. I now have a very decent ride that we enjoy.

You may also find some skeletons with the 1500s as well - stranger things have happened.

Hope this helps, and just MHO.

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Re: Which wing?

Post by ct1500 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:45 pm

The 1000 after 22 years would need more work than it is worth. :(

The 1500 is one of the most complex and difficult to work on/diagnose motorcycles ever made. As the Ern mentioned earlier plastic can hide a multitude of problems and you do not know what lies beneath until removed. One must be familiar with the 1500 characteristics, one guys opinion of their great running machine may often times be not.

I would go with the "97 as 100k on the clock for a well maintained 1500 is nothing. These machines should have a pre-sale inspection and test ride to root out the dogs and uncover some potential problems. (Think ebay sales here)
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Re: Which wing?

Post by Rednaxs60 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:41 pm

The reason I mention doing the work up front in my previous post is that it is all too often we expend time and resources, then sell - something like a house, never finished until you sell. This way you baseline the bike mechanically, and you get to enjoy the fruits of your labours and expense, not someone else. Probably good for 3 to 5 years before anything major needs to be done.

I would also look at what add-ons have been installed such as lights, USB connections and the likes. These have to be connected somewhere, and you probably would not find out until you start doing your own maintenance and removing the plastics. Would also look at the date stamp on the tires - recommended to not go past 5 years in age - could be an expense right at the start. Something to keep in mind.

Agree with ct1500 in that get the latest year of the 1500 as possible. If something does not feel good walk away as there will always be one around the corner. Pre-sale inspections are good, but make sure you find out what is done. A cursory inspection without taking anything apart and off, is really a non-intrusive inspection and a feel good effort. Peruse these forums and come up with a list of what you would like to know from a pre-sale inspection and what questions you would like the owner to answer. Too late after the fact to say to oneself should have asked about this.

Just a few more thoughts. Cheers
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Re: Which wing?

Post by RockportDave » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:48 pm

oldcase wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:44 pm
I have been planning to ride after a 22 year break from motorcycles. My current options buy a 97 gl 1500 with > 100 k but looks ready to go, 96 with less than 50 k and some problems, or get my 79 Gl 1000 out of 22 year storage in a farm shed. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I bought my 1999 with just under 40,000 miles on it and knew going in it would need work because it sat unused a lot. The ad said “fires up and everything works. Has new tires, master cylinder, brakes and battery”. After test riding I knew the carbs needed overhauled, but it shifted good with no abnormal noises from the engine and transmission. The battery and brake pads were new, but the tires were 4 years old with 3/4 tread.
I have rebuilt the carbs, replaced the alternator (went out without warning), front fork oil, timing belts (10 years old), all brake fluids, rear tire (had a nail in it), clutch fluid and now rebuilding the clutch slave cylinder. Replaced the shifter shaft seal (was hard and leaking) and added the shifter pivot brace. Removed the rear wheel and greased the drive splines and drive shaft. Installed a Blackwing fork brace.
As others said, these bikes are 20+ years old and rubber doesn’t last that long. Anything that has a seal will probably need attention sooner than later.
I have spent approximately $1,200 getting this bike up to what I call “trustworthy”, but I knew this going in.
Do a good long test ride and listen for any abnormal noises from the engine and transmission. Make sure it shifts good. Run the engine long enough to get the radiator fans to come on.
I would definitely ask for records of maintenance and unless it can be proven the belts were changed recently, I would at least replace them.
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Re: Which wing?

Post by oldcase » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:28 am

Thank you for your helpful responses. I have agreed to purchase the 97 SE. It runs well, everything appears tight and functional. The purchase price is such that if things go very bad, it can join the other two bikes in a shed on the farm.

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Re: Which wing?

Post by newday777 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:59 am

:o :o :o
Yikes! You threaten it like that! :cry:

The 97 should outlast you and is a great bike. The 1500s are known to go way past 500,000 miles if taken care of and loved upon.



oldcase wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:28 am
Thank you for your helpful responses. I have agreed to purchase the 97 SE. It runs well, everything appears tight and functional. The purchase price is such that if things go very bad, it can join the other two bikes in a shed on the farm.

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Re: Which wing?

Post by joeincalif » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:10 pm

Good choice. and I'm sure you will do some maintenance on it just to be sure. Most 1500 owners do NOT change the timing belts. Everything can look great and have great maintenance records but some things I would make sure were done
Timing belts changed
Drive shaft removed and splines greased
at 100K you probably want to change the alternator brushes
Fork oil should be changed if it hasn't been done
These are a few things that need to be done but a lot of owners don't do.


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