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Storage Temperatures

Post by Floortek » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:48 am



I want to store my 1989 wing in an enclosed trailer for the summer. I am a snowbird that is staying in Arizona during the winter. The temperatures get to 125 degrees F on the outside at times so I can imagine what it would be inside this enclosed cargo trailer. Does anybody have any experience with this or point me to a source that could help. My concern is With any of the plastic and seats along with pressure from the fuel tank. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Remember...ride safe, watch out for others because they probably aren’t watching for you.

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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by MikeB » Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:23 pm

If the temps get to 125 degrees Fahrenheit outside you can probably expect the temps to be 20 to 40 Fahrenheit higher on the inside unless you can get the trailer under some shade.

I don't think that is a really good idea. Maybe you should have an exhaust fan or at least some flow through ventilation to help keep things cool inside.
Not only plastic but the rubber hoses and such will dry and crack with all that dry air and elevated heat.
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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by raven41951 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:29 pm

The "Tupperware" is made from ABS. It starts to soften at 185F and will distort beyond 220F. I would recommend no more than 160F. If your enclosed trailer has vents, open them (some have doors, others are open), and think about a small fan in front of one blowing air out. This will help to reduce the interior temp. If you don't have ac running to it to keep your battery tender running then try a solar panel on the roof feeding a low dc voltage fan. Any amount of circulation will help.

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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by bluthundr31 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:32 pm

You state its an "enclosed cargo trailer" in your opening post, , , , Could you give more info about it, , ,or a pic of it??

I'm asking because I see the possibility, if enough room inside, of tacking up THICK sheets/rolls of good insulation along the walls and roof to mitigate the outside heat from getting inside. The blower fan idea will help too as long as the air keeps circulating well.

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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by bluthundr31 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:32 pm

One of the Arizona boys will probably have much better advice, , , , but I was also thinking, ,,

I wonder about $100-150 shelter, maybe like a 10'X10', or slightly larger, with sides that could keep the direct sunlight/heat off the enclosed cargo trailer. They're a snap to put up and if you could rig it so that it's "tamper-proof", it might work. I see 'em at Home Depot/Lowes and most major hardware chains, maybe check eBay too.

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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by AZgl1800 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:48 pm

for those of you who have not experienced Arizona, huge walls of dirt come blowing in, and open vents are a no no.

drain the gas out of the tank, or fill it to the bottom of the neck.... and pour in 2 oz of 2 cycle 50-1 oil before you fill it up. run the engine until it starts to smoke and shut it down.
that will help protect the seals and gaskets.

you have not seen dirt, until you have been in a desert with 50 mph winds.

my 94SE sat in a closed shed for two years, and it fared well.... don't know how hot it got, but it had not been started in 2 years when I bought it.
it ran, but just barely..... took 3 or 4 months of using Seafoam in every tank of gas to get it to running right. I just did not want to pull the carbs.

I used it for daily transportation to work and back... once over 2,000 rpm it ran okay, below that it shuddered badly... but it got better, week by week.

Average temps from August thru October are 105-115, and I have seen 110°F daily for six weeks straight... and overnight lows of 90°F.
the hottest that I remember was 122°F for about 3 days straight....
Airplanes have to shut down at 127°F because they cannot lift off before they run out of runway and hit a fence.
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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by raven41951 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:40 pm

My trailer is a 6x12 CarMate. This was the smallest trailer that would fit the Goldwing inside. No pics right now, but if you look up there web site you will find plenty. Its designed to be a work trailer with gasoline powered equipment in mind, thus the vents. I had a wheel chock and four d-rings installed (I know they want six but carmate specs call for four and that's what the dealer put in). Its a 3/4 inch plywood floor and its guaranteed for life, as well as a sturdy ramp. I don't have all the details with me right now but I will get them and post them. The whole thing is in winter storage right now.

I had originally got this to haul the wing on several of my trapshooting outings but I ended up also buying a 26 foot Heartland Toy Hauler Travel Trailer and another wheel chock so the carmate was somewhat superfluous until my knee thing happened and I bought a golf car (now a trap-car) for getting around the big shoots which now takes up the rear of the toy hauler. I could put it In the back of my pickup and put the wing in the trailer but that would put quite a bit of train on a half ton pickup. Back to the subject.

The carmate has 3/8 plywood walls inside and an aluminum exterior. I think you could easily attach foam sheeting to the walls if so needed. I run power into mine for the battery tender and a small oil filled electric heater on low to keep condensation down. This is the first winter I've used it but it seems to be working well. The wing pretty much fills up that trailer. Glad the 5x10 door height was too low as it would have been difficult for a fat old man to crawl out with the wing in there.

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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by Viking » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:00 am

My thought would have been to put a roof vent in the trailer, and leave it open about two inches so that the heat inside, which rises to the ceiling of the trailer could escape. AZgl1800s mention of all the dust that will blow in almost changes my mind about this, but not quite. If it was me, I would either find a storage unit and park the bike there, or do as I mentioned with installing a roof vent, but then put a sheet over the motorcycle. When you get back next winter, peel the sheet off, hopefully with all the dust that has collected on it, take the bike out, and sweep out the trailer. Good to go till next summer.

I personally would rather find a temperature stabilized storage place. It do get hot in the summer there. When I lived in New Mexico (right next door to Arizona and just as hot in summer) I had a swamp cooler on the garage to keep motorcycles and workspace cool enough to be able to be there in summer.

I guess a small trailer would be too small to mount a swamp cooler on top, LMFAO.
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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by Floortek » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:19 pm

Hi fellow wingers,

I want to thank all the members that responded to my post on storing my wing in Arizona during the summer months. Every answer was a good read and I learned something from each and every one. Now it’s time to investigate each suggestion further to find the best solution for my wing. I will follow up with what I decided on to let everyone know. Thanks again for all the input and remember the most important thing: watch out for all the other vehicles on the road because they aren’t looking for you. Ride safe!!

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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by C-dub » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:15 pm

Alright, I'm curious. Instead of storing it in Arizona for the summer, why not take it with you and ride it during the summer and trailer it back to Arizona to ride during the winter?
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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by AZgl1800 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:23 pm

avoid the swamp cooler idea, unless you enjoy fixing corroded wiring.
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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by Charlie1Horse » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:51 pm

If you don't mind modifying the trailer, try installing a power roof vent to exhaust the air near the front. Then install intake vents in the rear walls and build sealed filter boxes over the intake vents. That will allow the air in and keep the dirt out. Then go to Harbor Freight and purchase a 15 watt solar panel to place on the roof to power the exhaust fan any time the sun is up. I used to have a solar panel in the bed of my pickup and a 10" 12 volt box fan from Wally World in the sliding rear window (my A/C didn't work). The solar panel puts out more than enough power to run that fan. Actually it slightly overpowers the fan. That should keep air flowing and the bike should survive well.
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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by Floortek » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:52 pm

Hi c-dub

To answer your question c-dub I have another wing at home. It is just cheaper for us to fly than drive back and forth.
Again thanks for the additional advice on vents and fans.
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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by C-dub » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:00 am

Floortek wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:52 pm
Hi c-dub

To answer your question c-dub I have another wing at home. It is just cheaper for us to fly than drive back and forth.
Again thanks for the additional advice on vents and fans.
Cheers
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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by oldmopars » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:12 pm

AZgl1800 wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:48 pm

Airplanes have to shut down at 127°F because they cannot lift off before they run out of runway and hit a fence.
I spent 14 years in the Air Force. One summer I spent 3 months in Saudi Arabia. It was 125+ every day for almost the whole 180 days I was there. The runway there is several miles long due to the fact that at those temps, it takes a long way to get off the ground.
We used to joke about the C5. It seemed you could send it out to the runway, take lunch and it would finally be getting off the ground when you got back. They are close to 1 million pounds when fully loaded, that thin air was just not working. They could not be fully loaded and still take off.

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Re: Storage Temperatures

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:04 pm

I worked in Phoenix, AZ and that is the airport where they told me that 127°F was the limit, the runway has highways on both ends of it, and going east, the terrain goes uphill faster then the commercial boys can climb in high temps.

One of those big lumber busses has jet assist takeoff IIRC.

I rode a Southwest air one hot summer day, I swear that I could see the hovels in New Mexico before it got high enough to turn around and go to New York. :o


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