GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement


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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by bluthundr31 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:54 am



It looks like your voltmeter is just below the "badge" which is closer to the dash than what a radio would be installed. You have a valid point, so please don't misunderstand my comments.

Take a quick look at my post(pic) from 5/13 and you'll see my iphone sits just below the 'badge", similar to where your voltmeter sits. At night, the iphone screen DOES reflect off my windshield (for 20 seconds or so until it goes blank), but the radio you see in the pic has absolutely NO REFLECTION. I shined a laser pointer at the closest point of the "Blank-off" panel and there is NO REFLECTION off the windshield in the dark. The laser pointer WILL show on the windshield when I move it up the centershelter near the bottom of the "badge".

My beast has a "standard" windshield and I'm an average height guy, , and I don't see an issue with a radio reflecting off the windshield at night. Even a lighted toggle, or lighted switch near the front section of the panel would not cause any reflection IMHO.

I'm thinking that if your OEM radio doesn't reflect off the windshield at night, a nice Marine radio in the same place shouldn't reflect either.



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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by digividsmith » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:49 am

Very good points. I do have a tall aftermarket windshield, so it will be more prone to catching more dashboard lights. I just wanted people to think about unwanted reflections prior to going out and spending big bucks on bright LED lit stuff. I really like the radio you decided on. Where did you find it?

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by bluthundr31 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:52 pm

The radio is from Walmart and they cost $13.99 (on rollback) with all the bells and whistles. Its a Dual XDM16BT that works great and I'm pleased with all the "goodies". The biggest drawback is that it is NOT waterproof, but at that price, I didn't really expect it to be. If I could do it over again, I'd take a look at that Jensen unit that Smack67 put in, it would solve the waterproof issue.

Smack67 was able to get his Jensen unit wired to the handlebar control switches, and he posted the connections for us to follow. (GOOD JOB!!!)

***UPDATE ON PANELS*** The vendor has 60% of my first "run" of panels (Unobtainium 2.1/ Blank-offs) completed and I should have them (hopefully) by next week. I'll give more information once I know more, , , , Thanks for your interest folks, ,

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by Scaldedchevy » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:01 pm

Smack67,

Did you find that the 40w output was sufficient, or did you install an amp?

Also, could you post some information on what speakers you used with the enclosures?

Thank you sir
James

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by smack67 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:46 am

Scaldedchevy wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:01 pm
Smack67,

Did you find that the 40w output was sufficient, or did you install an amp?

Also, could you post some information on what speakers you used with the enclosures?

Thank you sir
James
40w is more than sufficient for me, even with my LS2 Valiant helmet in full face mode. As for the speakers, they were some Rockland 5.25 three way speakers from the amazon warehouse deals site for $10. They sound great even though I heavily modified the frame of each speaker to fit (cut off the bottom and top edges).

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by Scaldedchevy » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:32 am

Thank you. I need to do that.
James

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by Stew » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:15 am

Here is one of the really shallow depth media receivers that would be perfect on the blanking plate! This thing is what, 1 1/2" deep? Perfect!


Winging it every chance I get 8-)

19,119 miles when I got it from dad Oct 15, 2017 --- 26,005 miles and counting as of June 10, 2019!

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by kyleboedeker » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:08 am

bluthundr31 wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:28 am
The blank-off panel bolts to the existing mounting holes used for the standard GL1500 radios so no mods are needed, and I think you can use the same screws that were used for the radio but I'm not 100% positive. They're about 6 cents each from most hardware stores.

That Jensen radio or any other brand with the same depth and similar top-side dimensions would fit nicely in the forward position. The "angled" area of the panel (nearer to the gas cap door) could work well for FM-Modulator toggle switches, USB ports, indicator lights, fader knob, or a small gizmo of some sort.

I'm thinking of making some "minor" mods and having some available in a few weeks. If things work out as expected, they'll cost about what the Unobtainium 2.0 panel costs. This all hinges on the quality and craftsmanship of the finished products.

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Please tell me where I can get this blank-off panel! I fabricated one from lexan (see photo), but i'd be interested in something like this in case I want to change my radio out for something fancier/higher wattage.
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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by Scaldedchevy » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:01 pm

Stew wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:15 am
Here is one of the really shallow depth media receivers that would be perfect on the blanking plate! This thing is what, 1 1/2" deep? Perfect!



That sounds GREAT Stew! But I am afraid that it appears your link or information about that narrow-depth control head did not make it in to the feed. Can you please post it once more?

Thank you

James from Southwest Louisiana

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by Stew » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:02 am

Its the Blaupunkt Toronto TRT1049 AM/FM Bluetooth Media Receiver. I don't have an opinion good or bad about this particular stereo, just that it is the perfect size for the area we have available, and for $10 to $15 it does seem to be a pretty good deal and has pretty decent ratings.
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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by Scaldedchevy » Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:34 pm

It does sound good. Thank you
James

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by cmhbob » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:01 pm

I've been playing with different ideas to upgrade my stereo ever since I started riding Wings 20 years ago. Thrilled at the Unobtanium idea, and already signed up in the other thread. I'm currently playing with a BT cassette adapter which seems to work pretty well, although it's got its own issues (a dongle hanging out of the cassette door, and keeping it charged).

My immediate question on this radio swap is about getting the speakers connected. I've done low-voltage connectors before when I was a funeral escort, so that basic concept doesn't scare me too much. But are you guys using the existing harness at all, or cutting it out and hard-wiring things in? Does anything carry over to the GW LCD screen once you put a new radio in?

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by GlimWas » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:11 pm

Personally i would use the existing wires as i am not using the old radio 3ver again, but you can opt for new wiring too offcourse. I think it’s what you want for yourself....
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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by Scaldedchevy » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:04 pm

cmhbob wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:01 pm
I've been playing with different ideas to upgrade my stereo ever since I started riding Wings 20 years ago. Thrilled at the Unobtanium idea, and already signed up in the other thread. I'm currently playing with a BT cassette adapter which seems to work pretty well, although it's got its own issues (a dongle hanging out of the cassette door, and keeping it charged).

I use a BT cassette also at this time. It doesn’t have a dongle. It’s completely wireless. It works well for what it is intended for, but I just want to fix the incredibly poor sound quality. I guess it was great in 1988, but we are spoiled and expect much more in 2019.

James

My immediate question on this radio swap is about getting the speakers connected. I've done low-voltage connectors before when I was a funeral escort, so that basic concept doesn't scare me too much. But are you guys using the existing harness at all, or cutting it out and hard-wiring things in? Does anything carry over to the GW LCD screen once you put a new radio in?

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by kyleboedeker » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:16 am

Scaldedchevy wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:04 pm
cmhbob wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:01 pm
I've been playing with different ideas to upgrade my stereo ever since I started riding Wings 20 years ago. Thrilled at the Unobtanium idea, and already signed up in the other thread. I'm currently playing with a BT cassette adapter which seems to work pretty well, although it's got its own issues (a dongle hanging out of the cassette door, and keeping it charged).

I use a BT cassette also at this time. It doesn’t have a dongle. It’s completely wireless. It works well for what it is intended for, but I just want to fix the incredibly poor sound quality. I guess it was great in 1988, but we are spoiled and expect much more in 2019.

James

My immediate question on this radio swap is about getting the speakers connected. I've done low-voltage connectors before when I was a funeral escort, so that basic concept doesn't scare me too much. But are you guys using the existing harness at all, or cutting it out and hard-wiring things in? Does anything carry over to the GW LCD screen once you put a new radio in?
When I first put my new radio in, I cut the harness off the old system and wired directly to the old power, ground, accessory power, and speaker lines. That worked okay, but the wiring is old and was running through a fader that didn't really work and I ended up stuck with 3 out of 4 speakers working and unable to get the 4th to work because of the messed up fader. I decided to add an amp and larger speakers in the front pockets, so I rewired everything. I am in the middle of fitting a new touch screen head unit and putting figuring out the housing for my new 6.5 inch kickers i'm mounting in the glove box compartments. As for the lcd screen, mine still shows a clock and will give the air compressor readout, but the time is wrong and there's no way to set it haha. That may be my next project. Replacing that lcd with some other little panel that I can feed info from a raspberry pi or something.

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by bluthundr31 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:49 pm

PANEL UPDATE: I've spoken with the vendor about these "Blank-off" panels. He says the panels are done, and they look GREAT!!! He shipped them UPS today and they are expected to arrive at my home on Wednesday 4/17/19. He said that the added reinforcement of the "legs" and ribbing will make them VERY sturdy, and the additional "Hi-temp resin" will prevent any issues related to overheating. As stated earlier, they are made in USA, they come in BLACK, and will fit all GL1500 models from '88-'00.
I will be starting a new thread once these panels arrive, including pictures of the quality/craftsmanship.

The cost of this panel, labeled as "UNOBTAINIUM 2.1", is $132.00 + $14.35 USPS Priority Mail Flat Rate Medium box to anywhere in the lower 48 states.

I had a small number of panels made and the members who have already expressed interest and were put on the "list" will be offered "first dibs".

Additionally, if anyone wants to pre-pay for a panel, payment can be made at PayPal to Paypal.Me/bluthundr31. Once funds are received in that account, Paypal alerts me and I'll ship the panel right away, (4/17 would be the soonest shipping date ofcourse)

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by bluthundr31 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:04 am

I've just received a small number of the "Blank-off" panels that are "cosmetically" identical to the one in the picture, ,they are a slick addition to ALL/ANY GL1500 rider who wants a platform to mount a sound system that has all the current technology available.

I have modified the panels so they have more "beef" at the stress points without changing the appearance or mounting capability. Mounting an Amp on a metal plate under the center-shelter would be helpful and it would stay hidden.

These panels are available under the "label" of Unobtainium 2.1 and have the part number of 83155-MW5-XXX, and MADE IN USA.
The cost will be $132.00 (same as the Unobtainium 2.0) plus $14.35 S/H to lower 48 states. International shipping will be higher, but panel cost will stay the same. PM me if interested.









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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by tnt9339 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:49 pm

My Unobtainium 2.1 radio panel arrived today. Very nice piece.
My bike is a disassembled and in primer waiting for me to decide color. I have sanded the texture off all the hard pieces and will do so to this.
I will post some pictures when I get moving on it again.
The pressure is off to get it done quickly since my wife insisted we get a 2018 DCT Tour.
Happy wife happy life. :D My life too. ;)

Thanks for all your efforts Dennis, Tony

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by bellboy40 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:54 am

tnt9339 wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:49 pm
My Unobtainium 2.1 radio panel arrived today. Very nice piece.
My bike is a disassembled and in primer waiting for me to decide color. I have sanded the texture off all the hard pieces and will do so to this.
I will post some pictures when I get moving on it again.
The pressure is off to get it done quickly since my wife insisted we get a 2018 DCT Tour.
Happy wife happy life. :D My life too. ;)

Thanks for all your efforts Dennis, Tony
Gotta love a woman like that! :D

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by tnt9339 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:41 pm

Third time is a charm or three strikes and you are out. I am charmed! 8-)

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by bluthundr31 » Thu May 16, 2019 2:48 pm

With the discussions on upgrading the stereo, it'd be nice to have an idea what would replace the OEM unit. Take a look at the Pyle unit, 4X50watts and all the bells and whistles with a really reasonable price.


https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PATVR10-Blu ... ct_details

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Re: GL1500 stereo upgrade/replacement

Post by T_birdman » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:40 am

OK, so the gist of stereo replacement issues besides the easy wiring in the new unit and connecting the speakers, seems to me the intercom gets deleted (ok, fine I ride alone mostly), the handlebar controls need to be rewired (provided the new stereo unit will accommodate them), the CB needs to be rewired or deleted (I never use it but hate to lose it anyway!) and the LCD clock will be incorrect and unchangeable, Radio station display is gone or mode display, and I believe the system mutes audio when the bike is in reverse. Did I miss anything?

While looking over the schematics of the audio system, I noticed several items controlled by or at least run thru the radio unit such as the speed pulse wire, data pair and blanking. The speed pulse and data are I think part of the Honda radio that controls the AVC, and possibly the blanking is for the mute, but don't take that as gospel from me!







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