GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot


Information and questions on GL1500 Goldwings (1988-2000)
Post Reply
User avatar
DougEFresh1123
Posts: 241
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:22 am
Location: Villa Park, IL
Motorcycle: 2002 Honda Magna VF750
1994 GL1500SE

GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by DougEFresh1123 »



I seem to be having an issue with this pivot brace, I followed WingAdmins how to and the instructions sent with the brace. It appears when the brace is installed I don't get the spacing the picture in the how to shows. When putting the shift pedal back the shifter is blocked by the crash bars.
Attachments

from the rear
from the rear


front view of brace
front view of brace


This is the dog legged piece and the split is straight up and down
This is the dog legged piece and the split is straight up and down



'02 Magna VF750
'94 GL1500SE
- Doug

“We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.”
― Ronald Reagan
User avatar
RockportDave
Posts: 455
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:39 pm
Location: Rockport Texas
Motorcycle: 1999 GL1500 SE
Previous bikes:
1969 Honda CL90 “bobbed” before it was cool
1981 Yamaha 850 Triple w/Windjammer
1981 GL1100 Interstate
1985 GL1200 LTD
1988 GL1500
1988 GL1500

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by RockportDave »

Here is mine before I removed it. I believe the split should be slightly towards the rear of the bike.


Here it is after installed.




There is a very small dot on the shifter shaft you have to align the split with.




It shouldn’t be straight up.
Dave
1999 GL1500SE 5th Goldwing through the years
wingdings
Posts: 519
Joined: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:48 pm
Location: timbuck too , England, United Kingdom
Motorcycle: fff

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by wingdings »

Dave is right there - !! -if you don't line up the dot with the shifter pedal - the bike won't go in to gear at all - also found this vid on you tube - by the maker -

   Never miss a video: Subscribe to the GoldwingDocs YouTube channel today!
I used this vid to fit mine on my K-wing -

Also take a look at this one too -

   Never miss a video: Subscribe to the GoldwingDocs YouTube channel today!


Hope this helps - best regards - too - J .. :D :D :D
User avatar
DougEFresh1123
Posts: 241
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:22 am
Location: Villa Park, IL
Motorcycle: 2002 Honda Magna VF750
1994 GL1500SE

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by DougEFresh1123 »

RockportDave wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:33 pm Here is mine before I removed it. I believe the split should be slightly towards the rear of the bike.
44D50B02-6ADC-472F-A9AD-EC01D9D352FC.jpeg
Here it is after installed.
F16C8AEC-C674-499E-8CE6-9FAD6D67869C.jpeg
9BF42149-DC42-4EE1-AC15-698721C50FA1.jpeg
There is a very small dot on the shifter shaft you have to align the split with.
299E5115-DA7A-40C2-850F-5F4D2BFB11C5.png
46E43843-7E0A-4846-A379-2656BC820425.png
It shouldn’t be straight up.
Dave
Thanks Dave, I will have my son double check, since he has the good young eyes, to see if the dot and the split are aligned, its a difficult area to see into. The issue with my bike was I needed to separate the frame to pull that part off, hopefully I can get it removed and rotated with out having to pull the frame apart.

Doug
'02 Magna VF750
'94 GL1500SE
- Doug

“We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.”
― Ronald Reagan
User avatar
DougEFresh1123
Posts: 241
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:22 am
Location: Villa Park, IL
Motorcycle: 2002 Honda Magna VF750
1994 GL1500SE

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by DougEFresh1123 »

wingdings wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:15 am Dave is right there - !! -if you don't line up the dot with the shifter pedal - the bike won't go in to gear at all - also found this vid on you tube - by the maker -

   Never miss a video: Subscribe to the GoldwingDocs YouTube channel today!
I used this vid to fit mine on my K-wing -

Also take a look at this one too -

   Never miss a video: Subscribe to the GoldwingDocs YouTube channel today!


Hope this helps - best regards - too - J .. :D :D :D
Thanks wingding, I'll watch the video to see what I did wrong.

Doug
'02 Magna VF750
'94 GL1500SE
- Doug

“We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.”
― Ronald Reagan
User avatar
GlimWas
Posts: 172
Joined: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:31 am
Location: Netherlands
Motorcycle: 1994 GL1500 SE Canada Edition, Carbon Candy Blue
2014 NC750X DCT
Contact:

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by GlimWas »

When i did mine, the shifter didn't clesr the frame either. I grinded it down so it would fit the next time.
I made a shifter pivot myself btw
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebars to the saddle

GL1100 '80
GL1200 '87
GL1500 '94
User avatar
DougEFresh1123
Posts: 241
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:22 am
Location: Villa Park, IL
Motorcycle: 2002 Honda Magna VF750
1994 GL1500SE

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by DougEFresh1123 »

GlimWas wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:13 pm When i did mine, the shifter didn't clesr the frame either. I grinded it down so it would fit the next time.
I made a shifter pivot myself btw
If i need to take it off completely I will grind it down, I'm guessing its only about an 1/16 of an inch or so.

That's awesome you made your own brace, I'm not a mechanical guy and so it was easier to pay for someone else's genius.

Doug
'02 Magna VF750
'94 GL1500SE
- Doug

“We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.”
― Ronald Reagan
89 1500
Posts: 146
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:29 pm
Location: Texas
Motorcycle: 89, 1500 candy wineberry gone to another owner
92 Aspencade Cambridge blue

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by 89 1500 »

My 92 was a pita. When I finally did get the jack shaft out of the frame I knocked it down enough to have plenty of wiggle room. I've done a dozen seals and mine wasn't having it I do think my bike hates me. I caused another problem going back together but that's another story lol. I did have to re align the jack shaft slightly then the support worked great. I had to readjust my shifting habits over the floppy shaft. I used to have to slip my toe under the shifter and slightly lift to not miss second now if I do that little maneuver I miss the shift. It shifts like it's supposed to now and haven't missed second since the test ride.
User avatar
RockportDave
Posts: 455
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:39 pm
Location: Rockport Texas
Motorcycle: 1999 GL1500 SE
Previous bikes:
1969 Honda CL90 “bobbed” before it was cool
1981 Yamaha 850 Triple w/Windjammer
1981 GL1100 Interstate
1985 GL1200 LTD
1988 GL1500
1988 GL1500

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by RockportDave »

DougEFresh1123 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:30 am
RockportDave wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:33 pm Here is mine before I removed it. I believe the split should be slightly towards the rear of the bike.
44D50B02-6ADC-472F-A9AD-EC01D9D352FC.jpeg
Here it is after installed.
F16C8AEC-C674-499E-8CE6-9FAD6D67869C.jpeg
9BF42149-DC42-4EE1-AC15-698721C50FA1.jpeg
There is a very small dot on the shifter shaft you have to align the split with.
299E5115-DA7A-40C2-850F-5F4D2BFB11C5.png
46E43843-7E0A-4846-A379-2656BC820425.png
It shouldn’t be straight up.
Dave
Thanks Dave, I will have my son double check, since he has the good young eyes, to see if the dot and the split are aligned, its a difficult area to see into. The issue with my bike was I needed to separate the frame to pull that part off, hopefully I can get it removed and rotated with out having to pull the frame apart.

Doug
Mine didn’t want to come off either, but I used a long screwdriver and pried it off. I used it to pry it back on also. It didn’t hurt anything.
I believe you can back it off enough to turn it without taking it completely off.
Dave
1999 GL1500SE 5th Goldwing through the years
User avatar
DougEFresh1123
Posts: 241
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:22 am
Location: Villa Park, IL
Motorcycle: 2002 Honda Magna VF750
1994 GL1500SE

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by DougEFresh1123 »

Mine didn’t want to come off either, but I used a long screwdriver and pried it off. I used it to pry it back on also. It didn’t hurt anything.
I believe you can back it off enough to turn it without taking it completely off.
Dave
Thanks Dave, I will keep that in mind when I get back to working on it. According to SWMBO yard work is a higher priority.
'02 Magna VF750
'94 GL1500SE
- Doug

“We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.”
― Ronald Reagan
User avatar
RockportDave
Posts: 455
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:39 pm
Location: Rockport Texas
Motorcycle: 1999 GL1500 SE
Previous bikes:
1969 Honda CL90 “bobbed” before it was cool
1981 Yamaha 850 Triple w/Windjammer
1981 GL1100 Interstate
1985 GL1200 LTD
1988 GL1500
1988 GL1500

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by RockportDave »

Doug,
I missed the mark the first time also.
The gearshift arm is recessed on the inside and the shift spline is rounded on the outside enough for the splines to let go and I had enough room to roll it around without removing it.
Dave
1999 GL1500SE 5th Goldwing through the years
User avatar
DougEFresh1123
Posts: 241
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:22 am
Location: Villa Park, IL
Motorcycle: 2002 Honda Magna VF750
1994 GL1500SE

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by DougEFresh1123 »

RockportDave wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:45 pm Doug,
I missed the mark the first time also.
The gearshift arm is recessed on the inside and the shift spline is rounded on the outside enough for the splines to let go and I had enough room to roll it around without removing it.
Dave
Dave that is exactly what I was able to do. Looks much better now and I have the proper motion. Never did see the so called "punch mark" on the shaft coming out of the engine.
Attachments


'02 Magna VF750
'94 GL1500SE
- Doug

“We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.”
― Ronald Reagan
User avatar
Pate
Posts: 23
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:00 am
Location: Suomi
Motorcycle: 1999 GL1500 SE
1983 V65 Magna
1972 CB 750 K2

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by Pate »

Hi,

can you give a hint where I should buy the gear shifter pivot? There are really many of them in the ebay, all from China. They are quite cheap. Then in the CycleMax there is also the pivot for sale, but it´s much more expensive. I quess it´s better quality material. Do you know any other places where to look for the pivot, because the CycleMax is quite expensive? I must say that I don´t trust the chinese versions. They maybe just fine, but I have suspicions. But sure they are good for their price (about 20-30 euros, free delivery).

Pasi
User avatar
WingAdmin
Site Admin
Posts: 23864
Joined: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:16 pm
Location: Strongsville, OH
Motorcycle: 2000 GL1500 SE
1982 GL1100A Aspencade (sold)
1989 PC800 (sold)
1998 XV250 Virago (sold)
2012 Suzuki Burgman 400 (wife's!)
2007 Aspen Sentry Trailer
Contact:

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by WingAdmin »

Pate wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 7:17 am Hi,

can you give a hint where I should buy the gear shifter pivot? There are really many of them in the ebay, all from China. They are quite cheap. Then in the CycleMax there is also the pivot for sale, but it´s much more expensive. I quess it´s better quality material. Do you know any other places where to look for the pivot, because the CycleMax is quite expensive? I must say that I don´t trust the chinese versions. They maybe just fine, but I have suspicions. But sure they are good for their price (about 20-30 euros, free delivery).

Pasi
Buy the original one from Cyclemax. It was designed and manufactured by our member peppilepew, who spent years as a mechanic rebuilding transmissions. It's made of high quality parts built to tight tolerances.

A few years ago Chinese factories copied it started building knockoffs. They are made of cheap metal with sloppy, poor tolerances and often don't fit well. That's why they are sold so cheaply.
User avatar
Pate
Posts: 23
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:00 am
Location: Suomi
Motorcycle: 1999 GL1500 SE
1983 V65 Magna
1972 CB 750 K2

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by Pate »

Ok, thanks for the advice! I will forget the chinese versions and go for the Cyclemax. It's also fair considering the original designer's work and time spent to design the pivot.

Pasi
User avatar
blupupher
Posts: 787
Joined: Sun May 17, 2020 5:47 pm
Location: Katy, Republic of Texas
Motorcycle: 2013 BMW K1600GT

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by blupupher »

Current ride: 2013 BMW K1600GT

Former rides: 2002 GL1800A, 2001 CB750, 1994 GL1500 SE, 1994 VT1100C , 1984 VF500F, 1982 CB750C, 1982 GS250T, 1981 CB900C, 1978 CB125s, 1976 TS185
User avatar
Pate
Posts: 23
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:00 am
Location: Suomi
Motorcycle: 1999 GL1500 SE
1983 V65 Magna
1972 CB 750 K2

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by Pate »

Thanks for the hint! I just placed the order, it´s good to know that the seller is the original designer. I also noticed that there is one big difference compared to chinese copies: there is a teflon bushing in the original. In the chinese versions I can´t see any bushing. And if they are made of poor material, I think they will worn out much faster.

Pasi
Cewonz
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:52 pm
Location: Wilson, nc usa
Motorcycle: 1998 GL1500 SE

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by Cewonz »

Hey guys. I have a 98 GL Goldwing SE. Did anyone use that oil seal round rubber thing in Cliff's video? I watched it a million times but I don't think he put it on. Is anyone using it? Just got my kit today and where does it go again? I don't know if I need it. Thanks
User avatar
Rambozo
Posts: 3981
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:36 pm
Location: Disneyland
Motorcycle: 1992 GL1500 Aspencade
Ducati Monster

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by Rambozo »

That is the shift shaft seal. Frequently without a brace those start leaking. Follow your shifter shaft back to the engine case and see if your seal is weeping oil. If not, no real need to replace it.
Cewonz
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:52 pm
Location: Wilson, nc usa
Motorcycle: 1998 GL1500 SE

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by Cewonz »

Oh I see Rambozo! Thank you sir! 👍
User avatar
WingAdmin
Site Admin
Posts: 23864
Joined: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:16 pm
Location: Strongsville, OH
Motorcycle: 2000 GL1500 SE
1982 GL1100A Aspencade (sold)
1989 PC800 (sold)
1998 XV250 Virago (sold)
2012 Suzuki Burgman 400 (wife's!)
2007 Aspen Sentry Trailer
Contact:

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by WingAdmin »

Cewonz wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:59 pm Hey guys. I have a 98 GL Goldwing SE. Did anyone use that oil seal round rubber thing in Cliff's video? I watched it a million times but I don't think he put it on. Is anyone using it? Just got my kit today and where does it go again? I don't know if I need it. Thanks
Because the shift shaft moves around unsupported, it tends to wear the center hole in that seal too large, and that causes it to leak. When you install the pivot, you want to replace that seal as well.
Cewonz
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:52 pm
Location: Wilson, nc usa
Motorcycle: 1998 GL1500 SE

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by Cewonz »

Is it easy to do? Will I have to take off the shaft to install that seal?
User avatar
Rambozo
Posts: 3981
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:36 pm
Location: Disneyland
Motorcycle: 1992 GL1500 Aspencade
Ducati Monster

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by Rambozo »

You will have to remove the shifter shaft extension. Sometimes this is easy sometimes the frame is in the way. It doesn't seem to be a year issue but more of bike to bike tolerances.
Have a look in the How-To section for several articles on shifter seal installation, shifter brace installation, and frame obstruction solutions.
User avatar
Charlie1Horse
Posts: 806
Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:35 pm
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Motorcycle: 1986 GL1200A Aspencade
1992 GL1500I Interstate
2002 GL1800

Re: GL1500 Auxiliary Shifter Pivot

Post by Charlie1Horse »

Same problem here with my 92 Interstate. I just removed the 6 nuts that fasten the headers to the cylinder head and loosened the rear clamp, sprayed it well with WD-40 and dropped the headers down for plenty of work room and clear 'line of sight' to the end of the main shifter shaft. This made for easy replacement of the seal and easy cleanup around the area. This caused the job to take a little longer but, in the long run made it quite easy. I am completely happy with the installation. The hardest part for me was trimming the heat shield to fit without cutting more than necessary. But even that wasn't bad.
Russell


Those who say it cannot be done should try not to interrupt those who are doing it.
Post Reply