Oil change find


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Oil change find

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Was changing the oil in my 2000 1500 SE and when my son placed the funnel in the filler hole, he heard a clink. We removed the funnel and found a 2 inch long piece of a gear just sitting on the bottom below the output shaft. It is too large to get out of the filler hole.Got to looking at the manual, and it looks like a piece of the reverse idler. Reverse still worked last time I used it, which was a while ago. Makes me wonder how long it had been there. Will be a major tear down to get it out, and being an old aircraft mechanic, I can't just leave it there. May be a good reason to update bikes while doing this project. Any one had a similar event?


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Have you taken the starter out at some point before this happened?

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I would pull the motor, rear case and see if you can fish it and the other piece(s) out and replace it.
The starter gear is easily broken if the starter isn't worked in place properly. Maybe it cracked partially when the starter was put back in but the cold weather made the crack weaker. Did you fire it up over the winter to run it? The heat on the cold crack could have finalized it.

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Like you, I wouldn't run it like that either. Fishing it out as described might be your best bet, failing that you'll need to split the case (if you worked on Lycomings you'll be familiar with that) - only you don't get to remove the jugs first, and there's a transmission in there, too. Fitting it back together, you have to get the pistons into place as you join the halves. It's not an easy job.

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Newday, I replaced the starter several years ago. It is not easy to reinstall. After several attempts, (by the book) it finally slipped right in. (The inside bolt is a PITA) Have used reverse several times since then. BTW, it never gets too cold here in Florida to not ride. Luckily, my son just bought another 1800 in Calif. and is riding it back here. His older one is just sitting here waiting for me to ride it. Been looking through the manual to see just what I am looking at to remove the engine. Not all that complicated, but time consuming. Will have to clear some space for all the parts and pieces, and with another 1800 coming. will make it more fun. LOL Trying to figure out what parts, gaskets, etc. I will need to repair my 1500 so I will have things on hand to be able to put it back together. Like I just needed another project, LOL But they are easier to work on that some aircraft. Special tools? I fine that most are not really needed or find I have another tool that will do the job. Funny thing is that this whole thing started out as finding out what the cause of a miss was. Petcock or auto fuel valve had a torn diaphragm sending fuel straight to the manifold. And with new plugs, still not running as smooth as usual. Found that #3 + 5 cylinders not firing as well as they should, but this gear problem is higher priority for now. More later on how it is coming along.
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WingAdmin wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:57 pm
Like you, I wouldn't run it like that either. Fishing it out as described might be your best bet, failing that you'll need to split the case (if you worked on Lycomings you'll be familiar with that) - only you don't get to remove the jugs first, and there's a transmission in there, too. Fitting it back together, you have to get the pistons into place as you join the halves. It's not an easy job.
Admin, I don't think that I will have to split the case, sure hope not. LOL Looks like just (Yea, JUST) pulling the rear cover will get the job done. Still wondering that after I bought this bike, I found what looked to me, as a wrist pin sitting on top of the exhaust pipes on the right side. Couldn't figure why that would be there. Believe that someone else has been in here before me, but who would leave a piece of a gear inside the rear case. Guess I will see.
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seelyark1 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:18 pm
Believe that someone else has been in here before me, but who would leave a piece of a gear inside the rear case. Guess I will see.
Maybe they replaced the gear and just never found all of the pieces? Is too big to get out with magnet?
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Can get ahold of it with Hemostats, but is too large to come out of the filler hole. Can't see how you could miss seeing this part of the gear if it had been replaced. Don't see any way to break it up to get it out short of removing the rear case cover. Looks like a simple replacement of the gear once you can get at it. Looks like about an $80 gear, will look locally for a salvage part. Really gets me that I had a 1998 SE that was totaled by insurance that I could have bought back for $1700. All the spare parts there!!! Cosmetic damage, Tupperware. Now searching for gaskets and parts needed to put it back together.
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Re: Oil change find

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seelyark1 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:01 pm
Looks like about an $80 gear, will look locally for a salvage part.
That's a GoldWing gear, 80 bucks? :D

You mention seeing evidence of wrist pin sitting on top of the exhaust pipes on the right side … any symptoms lead you to think that gear wasn't already replaced? Have you a small camera wand to insert in hole, maybe help ID gear?


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