Fuel hatch lock broken


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Fuel hatch lock broken

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The lock of my fuel hatch is broken. I've replaced it for the lock from the right pocket, but now i don't have a working lock over there ofcourse.
Is there a known solution for this problem? I am not looking for a replacement lock as it would require a new key too. Simple solutions often work the best
and i am looking for an easy solution and am hoping my fellow forum members have it for me.

I can always let someone make a cover like on the left pocket and proceed from there, but i'm wondering if ayone has had this problem too and what his/her solution was.


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Re: Fuel hatch lock broken

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GlimWas wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:17 am
The lock of my fuel hatch is broken. I've replaced it for the lock from the right pocket, but now i don't have a working lock over there ofcourse.
Is there a known solution for this problem? I am not looking for a replacement lock as it would require a new key too. Simple solutions often work the best
and i am looking for an easy solution and am hoping my fellow forum members have it for me.

I can always let someone make a cover like on the left pocket and proceed from there, but i'm wondering if ayone has had this problem too and what his/her solution was.
I've been told by several locksmiths that these crimped locks are not serviceable, and cannot be re-keyed.

When I had the same problem, I ended up buying a new lock for the gas flap, and now my keyring has two keys on it: one for the ignition/pocket/trunk, and one for the gas flap.

Some owners have done this, but then glued the end of the key into a spare radio knob, and just left it in there permanently:

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Re: Fuel hatch lock broken

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There is/was a plastic piece that fits over the slot where the key goes in on those locks and it is subject to breaking off and getting into the key slot. That will cause your key not to work in that lock. I had that happen to mine but was able to dislodge it and use it again. If yours has that plastic piece broken off you might be able to put something down in the slot and tinker with it to possibly pick it out of there. Might be worth taking a look at that.
WingAdmin's solution is a good alternative to having to carry around another key. The key to work the gas door lock will be too short to work in the ignition, so that knob cannot be used to start the bike and it is not a security loss if you leave it on the bike.

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bellboy40 wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:17 am
WingAdmin's solution is a good alternative to having to carry around another key. The key to work the gas door lock will be too short to work in the ignition, so that knob cannot be used to start the bike and it is not a security loss if you leave it on the bike.
Not to mention that when you order the lock, it comes with keys for it, and the keys won't match your ignition - you basically get whatever they send you. So no worries leaving it around, it's the wrong key for your ignition anyway.

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As someone else mentioned, it may be that micro-plastic door on the lock has broken (as they do) and is keeping your key from fully seating, or is just messing up the tumbler pins. Either way, you are fortunate that lock comes off easily. You can invert it and try banging it sharply on a table to see if anything comes out, and even look for pieces near the lock entry point that can be picked out. There is the plastic door, as well as a very tiny spring that can fall into the lock. Also spray some WD40 in there to try and dislodge any loose pieces, and grab any with tweezers that may be stuck near the opening. If you are lucky.....
I'd post a picture, but have already removed those plastics and springs from my locks, having had the same issue as yours.

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Well there were some tiny springs coming loose, so i highly doubt the lock is ever going to work again...................
Dripped a few drops of gear oil in it, but so far; nothing
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If all seems lost, and there is nothing to lose, you could try lightly hammering on the key while it's in the lock on a table. The objective being to break up any already brittle plastic pieces that may be hindering complete key entry. Then try to flush out any debris with the WD40. Just another last ditch idea.

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I had the same problem and swapped the locks. Mine was the plastic that broke off in the lock so I fished out the plastic with a pick and it works fine.
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So order a new lock and make a knob key. Easy fix and when you gas up you don't have to take the ignition out of the ignition to open the gas lid.
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Here is one on my Concours 1400 saddle bag


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I've ordered this lock, going to make it fit in the right pocket cover. I'll be back! :lol:
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Installed the latch and it works out of the box with only a tiny bit of vertical movement!






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That looks really good. I like it. That would be a good replacement for the gas door lock also so you wouldn't have to remove your ignition key to open it at a gas stop. It looks like it might collect water in there when it rains though.

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That thought crossedmy mind too, but it's made for boats and outdoor use. Plus, while i'm driving not much water can come in. As a bonus for me, my bike is resting indoors and usually doesn't get wet. When it does i'm on vacation or on a tour with friends who are all afraid of riding in the wet :lol: So not much chance of filling up with water ;) Personally i am a all weather rider, but that is on my NC750X bike for commuting, these Michelin RP4's are amazing in the wet....


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