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dand
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Jis screwdriver

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Are the screwdrivers in the 1998 gl1500 jis?



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I'm going to say "probably", as the tool kit in my '97 SE seems to have been made in Japan, where Phillips screwdrivers aren't used for automotive purposes.

That being said, WingAdmin did a post a while back on JIS screwdrivers, along with an Amazon link. I looked at the ones he posted, found it to be an excellent deal (and a high-quality, genuine "Made In Japan" product), and ordered a set for myself. This is the set I got (about half the price I paid on the Canadian version of Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Bessel-Vessel-Di ... way&sr=8-6

No more stripped cross-head screws on MY bike!!

Hope this helps....

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As I've had read in many sites, they state that all japanese bikes have JIS screws. Those are for threaded holes.
Also that Phillips screws were designed to work on sheet metal, where the driver must slip before the screw may overpull and strip the threads.
Those Vessel tools are fantastic!
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Post by fibersport »

I might question if the screws are really JIS considering pretty much every part I've removed that is marked says made in USA. That being said, the Menards screwdrivers often on sale for buy one get one free for $0.99 seems to be good fits.

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If you look through Wingman's thread on the subject, I believe he had a cross-section drawing of the two, or maybe I just researched it myself (curse to get old..lol). On almost any screw that I touch by hand, I grab the Vessel ones first. They seem to have a better bite.

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This may help;

This may help you recognise JIS screws.
This may help you recognise JIS screws.

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I was at a CVMG (Canadian Vintage Motorcycle Group) rally three weeks ago, and there was a vendor there selling nothing but JIS screwdrivers, and making money doing it. He had three different iterations of them, the Vessel set of three, the Ball driver and bits, and a box with a bunch of bits that would work in the Ball driver. He was there last year and I purchased the Ball driver, so this year I purchased the box of bits. This is what I carry in my bike. His prices were not excellent, but they were not too overly high. For Canada. All of the guys who go to these CVMG rallies know about JIS, as a lot of the bikes there are older or really old metric, as well as American Vintage. All say the same thing. When working on metric, use JIS or ruin all your screw heads. It is however, the only place that I have ever seen, selling or advertising, JIS. I now have four sets of JIS screwdrivers and or bits.
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Occasionally I find myself with a stubborn standard Phillips screw, and I have a couple very good Phillips drivers that fit very snug. Sometimes even those drivers don't do the job and I reach for the JIS drivers. They have less of a tendency to cam-out even on Phillips screws!
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Viking wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:41 am
It is however, the only place that I have ever seen, selling or advertising, JIS. I now have four sets of JIS screwdrivers and or bits.
FYI, recently I received this e-mail from Randakks advertizing US made JIS screwdrivers.
https://www.randakks.com/catalog/produc ... GT3,O8ZC,1
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The difference between a US/Phillips and the JIS screwdriver is the US/Phillips has a longer point (note the JIS type fastener, has a shallow(er) center to the head.)
Scrub that point away and you will not have problems, except you will now be needing US/Phillips drivers.. pc

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Look at the photo PedroTQ posted above and you will see that most, but now all, jis screws are marked with a dot on the screw head.

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Vessel JIS are awesome :)
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Post by WingAdmin »

Happytrails wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:36 pm
Vessel JIS are awesome :)
I agree, I LOVE my Vessel JIS screwdrivers!

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Harbor freight has a kit of screw drivers in a plastic case, they are in fact JIS screwdrivers, most people don't know the difference, but there is a difference, when you put a JIS screwdriver into a JIS screw instead of a phillips you will know the difference, they really grip , not like a phillips screwdriver that will cam out of the screw, very poor design
and yes the kit that comes with the bike has JIS screwdrivers in it
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curtm wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:26 pm
Harbor freight has a kit of screw drivers in a plastic case, they are in fact JIS screwdrivers, most people don't know the difference, but there is a difference, when you put a JIS screwdriver into a JIS screw instead of a phillips you will know the difference, they really grip , not like a phillips screwdriver that will cam out of the screw, very poor design
and yes the kit that comes with the bike has JIS screwdrivers in it
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Do you by chance know the number for the Harbor Freight kit? I have the Vessel Ball and I really love it. It is amazing how much better using the right tool works for these fasteners.
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dand wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:31 am
Are the screwdrivers in the 1998 gl1500 jis?
Yes.
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$7.99

Screwdriver Set, 32 Pc. 61259

Heat treated carbon steel shanks

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https://www.harborfreight.com/screwdriv ... 61259.html

great set for $8.00

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I'm old (and blind) but I don't see anywhere in the link to Harbor Freight that it says the screwdrivers are JIS.

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Corkster52 wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:27 am
I'm old (and blind) but I don't see anywhere in the link to Harbor Freight that it says the screwdrivers are JIS.
That's ok it's Harbor Freight, so would you even believe them if they said they were? They change manufacturers more often than I change socks, so it would be best to just go see for yourself and decide based on what they actually have. Or just get the Vessels from Amazon and no worries about quality.

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I was unsure of the screwdrivers as well so I took a couple #2 JIS screws with me and compared the fit. I was satisfied that their drivers fit identical to a JIS screwdriver. I bought three of them, item #94707. https://www.harborfreight.com/2-x-4-inc ... 94707.html Their add says Phillips but at $1.79 each it is hard to go wrong.
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I stocked on bits and entire Vessel screwdivers years ago. The are very strong.



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