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pizzap
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Have a 1994 Gold Wing 1500 trike.20,000 miles. Went to Nashville on trailer. Drove 600 mile in TN. went to put bike on trailer to return home have to rev up while going on trailer other wise it will kill. Got bike on trailer shut it off. Then tried to move it forward 4-6 inches would not go. Got home took it off trailer clunks when it goes in first gear. wants to go but does not. Tried bleeding with mighty vac only got 1-1/2 inch of fluid out. took the cover off and fluid was below sight glass. filled up and only got about a inch of fluid in tube.
I have been having trouble leaving a dead stop. Have to do a higher rev so bike won't kill.
I believe I only had the clutch cleaned out once since i bought the bike new.
Two repair shops think I need a new clutch. I do not believe that's the case after watching several videos it may just need cleaning/ bleeding.
As I said it only has 20,000 miles on and I just went 600 miles.



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Re: clutch

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pizzap wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:52 pm
I believe I only had the clutch cleaned out once since i bought the bike new.
It is a 1994 GL1500? 25 years old? You only had the clutch cleaned out once?

You need to rebuild the clutch master cylinder and rebuild or replace the slave cylinder and use clean, new DOT 4 fluid when you fill it back up. Then, following the Honda Owners and Service manuals, replace the clutch fluid at LEAST every twelve months or 12,000 miles, whichever comes first. The same goes for the brake fluids.
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Thanks. Anymore comments I am afraid the shop where I took it in Marengo Illinois is going to take the clutch apart when all it needs is cleaning the reservoir and slave cylinder.

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As a minimum, flush the system with fresh DOT4 and then try it again. You may get lucky and that is all you will need to do for now.
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Someone on here talked about clutch sticking. I thought they had answered on this this page but I cannot find the comment. I believe he said to jack up the rear wheels off the ground and rev engine to 3,000 rpm and let go of clutch and hit rear brake. The clutch would then activate. My problem is I don't drive the bike enough. Has 20,000 and is 25 years old. Recently trailer ed it to Wing Ding and then drove about 700 miles in Tennessee while putting bike back on trailer it would kill if I didn't rev up to higher RPM's. once on the trailer I was going to move it further up and it clunked when putting in gear but did not move. It acted like it wanted to move but would not. I tried bleeding the system but got very little out of the bleeder using a mighty Vac. I then pulled the cover off the Master and discovered it was below the sight glass. I then filled with dot4. and only got about a inch into the tube on the mighty vac. As I said it sits a lot as you can tell from the milage.
It has given me trouble before at red lights I would need to rev the engine more so it wouldn't kill when taking off.
Two shop were right away deciding it was the clutch, but I am more inclined to believe it is the master cylinder or slave valve, because I have not bled the system the dealer may have one time.
The reason for the first comment was someone said the clutch may be sticking due to low ridership.

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pizzap wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:28 pm
I then pulled the cover off the Master and discovered it was below the sight glass.
Where did the clutch fluid go? Is it in the engine fouling the engine oil and contaminating the clutch plates? Worse yet, is the fluid in the engine and destroying the bearings?

Flush and refill the clutch system with fresh DOT4.
Drain the oil, replace the oil filter, replace the oil. Do not use energy conserving oil.
I've never had clutch problems so I do not know if it works to add Marvel Mystery Oil or Seafoam to the oil to help a slipping clutch issue.
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Thanks I already told the person that is working on the bike to change the oil. Also the engine parts near the bleeder valve was covered with film that I assume is brake fluid. I have finally convinced them to work on the master cylinder and slave cylinder before going directly to the clutch.



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