Wind noise and buffeting


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oldcase
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Wind noise and buffeting

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Firstly, I would like to thank everyone on this site for sharing their immense knowledge and wisdom about everything Goldwing. It has made my first year returning to riding much more enjoyable and less stressful.
My current difficulty, and I must admit that it is my problem--not the bike, is the at times i experience extreme wind noise and helmet buffeting. I am 6'8" so I sit somewhat high in the saddle. My current helmet is a new Scorpion exo r410. My '97 1500 has a windshield that measures 24" from the top of the chrome at the bottom of the windshield to the top of the windshield. It has no vent. On calm days or when going with the wind, it isn't bad, but Kansas has lots of wind and it seems rarely to be blowing in the right direction. My question, how do I get the most improvement for my money, a different helmet, install a vent in the current windshield, install a windshield extension, or a new windshield, and if the latter, which one is best for the money or is there another answer? Thank you for your consideration.



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Rambozo
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Do the easy things first. Try adjusting your windshield up and down to see if you can get some relief in the stock adjustment range.

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if you can't make the current windshield suit your needs,

please investigate www.Madstad.com

I put one on my 1800, and wish I had done it years ago, would have saved me a lot of money.

want it low on a nice spring day? loosen two screws and lower it down to the bottom.

Icey cold sleet hitting you in the face?
Loosen two screws and pull it up over your helmet.

In all cases, the screen is adjustable "front to back", that is, it tilts.
you must experience this screen to understand how great it is.

CycleMax is the only vendor for the 1500s.

https://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl1500 ... eld/332249



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oldcase wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:14 pm
Firstly, I would like to thank everyone on this site for sharing their immense knowledge and wisdom about everything Goldwing. It has made my first year returning to riding much more enjoyable and less stressful.
My current difficulty, and I must admit that it is my problem--not the bike, is the at times i experience extreme wind noise and helmet buffeting. I am 6'8" so I sit somewhat high in the saddle. My current helmet is a new Scorpion exo r410. My '97 1500 has a windshield that measures 24" from the top of the chrome at the bottom of the windshield to the top of the windshield. It has no vent. On calm days or when going with the wind, it isn't bad, but Kansas has lots of wind and it seems rarely to be blowing in the right direction. My question, how do I get the most improvement for my money, a different helmet, install a vent in the current windshield, install a windshield extension, or a new windshield, and if the latter, which one is best for the money or is there another answer? Thank you for your consideration.
I had a good improvement with ear plug .
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Looks like the Madstad offered on Cyclemax site is for the shield only? What about the frame which need to go with it if you start from scratch?

Thanks.

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You could get a car ! It's a motorcycle, expect wind !!
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Like Rambozo said start off with the easy thing first. Try raising the shield up then start looking at other solutions. To bad you don't live closer, I just changed out my windshield this past weekend for a smaller one. The one that came with the bike was way to big for me and I kept hitting my head on it getting on and off the trike. It might be just right for you and it has a vent in it.

I went with the Long Ride Shields Taka, it is a re-curve style windshield. The only reason I went with the Long Ride Shields is because I have had them on my Harley's for years and really liked them. I also have a vent in mine. There are a lot of choices and solutions out there, unfortunately it is more of a trial and error.
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Thank you very much for your recommendations. My main concern is one of safety. I have never encountered this severe form of buffeting before on other bikes or anywhere. Thank you again.

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My .02 cents, , , ,

Trust what AZgl1800 (John) says about the Madstad, , ,he knows of what he speaks. The cost of a new windshield is something only YOU can make a decision about. . .

HOWEVER, , I also endorse the FIRST attempt to resolve this issue should be to raise that windshield as high as possible. Check out the DIY section about windshield removal, its a good one and has lots of pictures. NOTE: when you get to the point of loosening the windshield, you'll find "slotted caps/spacers" with JIS screws. Those "slotted caps/spacers" should be put in the exact same slot when you re-assemble the windshield.

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Elmobile wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:21 am
Looks like the Madstad offered on Cyclemax site is for the shield only? What about the frame which need to go with it if you start from scratch?

Thanks.
Reading on their web site, looks to me like it's all included there.

Hard to sell a windshield that doesn't mount.
The MadStad system consists of a base windshield in gloss black (it replaces your factory windshield), our patented adjustable brackets that bolt to this base shield, and then the new windshield which attaches to our brackets. Your factory windshield adjustment levers will not be used, meaning that once you attach our base shield in place of your stock shield, it will simply sit in the lowest position. Height (and now also angle) adjustments are made on our brackets. These windshields are available in three different heights and six different colors. Be sure to select the correct combination when ordering. The chart below is a guideline based on the height of the rider. This will fit all Goldwing GL1500's from 1988-2000.
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for what it's worth, I finally had time to get out and ride yesterday and was quite pleased with the new windshield. Weather was great and the wife and I went out to dinner on the trike. There was no buffering yet i had plenty of air through the vent cooling me off and I was very comfortable all day. Last night when we got home I point asked the wife if she had any issues with buffeting or air and she said no that it didn't even come to mind.

Again though you will have to decide what works for you the best.
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bluthundr31 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:44 pm
My .02 cents, , , ,

Trust what AZgl1800 (John) says about the Madstad, , ,he knows of what he speaks. The cost of a new windshield is something only YOU can make a decision about. . .

HOWEVER, , I also endorse the FIRST attempt to resolve this issue should be to raise that windshield as high as possible. Check out the DIY section about windshield removal, its a good one and has lots of pictures. NOTE: when you get to the point of loosening the windshield, you'll find "slotted caps/spacers" with JIS screws. Those "slotted caps/spacers" should be put in the exact same slot when you re-assemble the windshield.
Let me add that those JIS screws are very likely going to be really tight. You need a good fitting screwdriver, preferably a JIS type, to keep from messing up the screw head slots. If you have an impact driver that would work well to break them loose. Another option that I have used is to clamp a vice grip on the head of the screw to break it loose.

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oldcase wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:52 pm
Thank you very much for your recommendations. My main concern is one of safety. I have never encountered this severe form of buffeting before on other bikes or anywhere. Thank you again.
Howdy oldcase
Looking at your profile, you had a gl1000 and a gs750?
The GL1500 is a bigger machine to say the least and has much protection from the elements but it won't control all the wind especially in the high wind conditions, no matter what you go with for a windshield to correct the buffeting. The wind will always hit in multiple directions, sideway winds will always kick ya hard.
As to headwinds, a 2 piece windshield is far better than a vent on a stock style, 1 piece windshield as you have. The space between the 2 screens give a change in airflow to up over most heads. I have a Windbender on my 1800 and regret not getting one on my 1500, as I had thought about doing, but went a cheaper route with a curved V-Stream(it was not a good choice as it flexed at highway speeds and high winds across the country, the 1500 got totaled before I got around to changing to the Windbender and I replaced with the 1800). The Windbender has helped me with less buffeting for most headwinds.
As John said the Madstad is very adjustable to help move, deflect the air around you to help lessen wind buffeting. They adjust not only up and down, but also have forward adjustability on the outer screen. I didn't learn of them until after my purchase of the Windbender and would have gone with the Madstad instead had I known of them.

As another option, albeit much more $$$, get a test ride on a new 1800 with the electric windshield and for your tall stature, more room for your legs. I have a friend who is 6' 7" and he says he is far more comfortable on his 2018.

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Here you can see the 2 piece Windbender on my 1800. It has their shortest recurve top shield(I'm a short 5'10"), in the lowest setting for summer riding. They offer taller top screens for taller riders as you are. I think Madstad offers taller top screens also.

Hmm. Just searched the Madstad site, looks like they might have stopped production of the 1500 screens. Contact them to see if they can help you out.

https://madstad.com/collections/honda?s ... -ascending


Windbender does still offer for the 1500 at this point in time....

http://www.firecreekacc.com/models.htm
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As to wind noise, the first review of your scorpion helmet is poor noise reduction.

Get an Arai to fit your noggin. Unlike most helmet makers, Arai makes different shape helmets for different shaped noggins. You can't fit a helmet very well online.
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I have this on my 06 Gl1800. Easy riding most of the time. Take a look, see if it may work for you. https://www.longrideshields.com/collect ... dwing-1800

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Be careful about buying a taller windshield.. the angle of my 97 Aspencade 's fairing mounted windshield, makes me be cautious when mounting the bike- the top edge can bang into my head!

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My brothers GW1800 trike kit has a plexiglass device behind the passenger-before the top trunk that is supposed to help with buffeting the passenger. similar to the devices Mercedes uses in their convertibles on the back of the headrests



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