Won't turn over
- guitarzan
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Won't turn over
Hi,
I've been working on my 1994 Goldwing SE for, well let's just say longer than I should have. I wanted to start it and use some carburetor cleaner while it was running. My thought being that while I have all the Tupperware off it would be a good time to do it. Is there any reason why it shouldn't turn over, like some kind of safety switch that would prevent that engine from turning over, I do hear a click when I turn the ignition switch on and push the start button. My headlights modulate, brake lights and turn signals work, kickstand is up and it's in neutral. I have the reverse handle off at this time, I don't think it's in reverse, the rear wheel turns. Here are a couple of pictures of where I'm at and maybe someone can spot something that would prevent the bike from turning over. Oh, I want to put the bags down, can I put the rear bag guards on, the rear footrests on before I lower the bags? I found out that I have to have the mufflers turned out before I lower the bags. I've had to take Tupperware off because I put some things on out of sequence. I put a picture in showing my one of my helpers, her name is Betty.
Thank you all
Frank
I've been working on my 1994 Goldwing SE for, well let's just say longer than I should have. I wanted to start it and use some carburetor cleaner while it was running. My thought being that while I have all the Tupperware off it would be a good time to do it. Is there any reason why it shouldn't turn over, like some kind of safety switch that would prevent that engine from turning over, I do hear a click when I turn the ignition switch on and push the start button. My headlights modulate, brake lights and turn signals work, kickstand is up and it's in neutral. I have the reverse handle off at this time, I don't think it's in reverse, the rear wheel turns. Here are a couple of pictures of where I'm at and maybe someone can spot something that would prevent the bike from turning over. Oh, I want to put the bags down, can I put the rear bag guards on, the rear footrests on before I lower the bags? I found out that I have to have the mufflers turned out before I lower the bags. I've had to take Tupperware off because I put some things on out of sequence. I put a picture in showing my one of my helpers, her name is Betty.
Thank you all
Frank
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- bluthundr31
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Re: Won't turn over
My first thought is "battery condition", , , what's the voltage with NO LOAD, , what's the voltage WITH LOAD? If both those are in the 12.7 V or better, , ,start investigating the BAS (bank angle sensor) as I notice that you've got the trunk/bags raised up.
- guitarzan
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Re: Won't turn over
Hi bluthundr,
I have a new battery but checked the voltage as you suggested and the voltage registered 12.8. I knew that there is some kind of sensor or switches that could be affecting the starting. Do you know off hand where it's located? I'll turn the mufflers out and lower the trunk/bags and see if she'll turn over. Man I sure hope so, I'd like to do some riding before the weather changes.
Thank you much bluthundr, I really appreciate the time to information, God knows I sure need it.
Frank
I have a new battery but checked the voltage as you suggested and the voltage registered 12.8. I knew that there is some kind of sensor or switches that could be affecting the starting. Do you know off hand where it's located? I'll turn the mufflers out and lower the trunk/bags and see if she'll turn over. Man I sure hope so, I'd like to do some riding before the weather changes.
Thank you much bluthundr, I really appreciate the time to information, God knows I sure need it.
Frank
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Re: Won't turn over
Pretty sure the Bank Angle sensor is on the sub-frame behind the left saddlebag under the trunk.
With the bags and trunk hinged up the BAS thinks the bike is standing on its front wheel and won't start. Tip the bags down and it should start ok.
With the bags and trunk hinged up the BAS thinks the bike is standing on its front wheel and won't start. Tip the bags down and it should start ok.
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- guitarzan
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Re: Won't turn over
I'm tempted to go out to the garage and try it now,.
Thank you DenverWinger
Frank
Thank you DenverWinger
Frank
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- Erdeniz Umman
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Re: Won't turn over
Just a little correction, Bank Angle Sensor is behind the right saddlebag under the trunk.DenverWinger wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:03 pmPretty sure the Bank Angle sensor is on the sub-frame behind the left saddlebag under the trunk.
With the bags and trunk hinged up the BAS thinks the bike is standing on its front wheel and won't start. Tip the bags down and it should start ok.
- guitarzan
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Re: Won't turn over
Thank you,
I've been trying to lower the bags but it's taking me a while because of locating certain fasteners in my garage.
Thanks again
Frank
I've been trying to lower the bags but it's taking me a while because of locating certain fasteners in my garage.
Thanks again
Frank
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- bluthundr31
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Re: Won't turn over
I agree with Erdeniz, ,atleast regarding the BAS on my '91, , the BAS is below the trunk on the RIGHT side. I removed the seat and the right side saddlebag to get to it (4 bolts for the seat and 4 bolts for the saddlebag). I even think you can just wiggle the saddlebag away/out far enough to access the BAS but I can't be sure. I removed the saddlebag because I was going to do other repairs.
- guitarzan
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Re: Won't turn over
I'm going to look in the manual to see what it looks like.
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Thank you
Frank
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Thank you
Frank
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- guitarzan
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Re: Won't turn over
Oh ok,
So that's it. It's bolted to the bike. I'm going to take a picture tomorrow ot this black rectangular thing with what looks like a wiring harness hanging just to the rear of my right shock absorber, it looks like it's just hanging there, I can grab it, but then again the bags are still up.
Thank you
Frank
So that's it. It's bolted to the bike. I'm going to take a picture tomorrow ot this black rectangular thing with what looks like a wiring harness hanging just to the rear of my right shock absorber, it looks like it's just hanging there, I can grab it, but then again the bags are still up.
Thank you
Frank
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