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Engine guards bent?

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I basically struggled a lot of time this summer trying to get the highway pegs I bought attached to my engine guards. Ideally, with my legs not being all that long, I would have liked to attach them on the horizontal section of the engine guards below the valve covers but there was just not enough room to put them there. When I traveled about 200 miles to help a buddy load up a 97 1500 that he had bought, I noticed that there was a lot more room around the engine guards that he had. The pics attached are of my guards and his. His have the gold center pieces on the valve covers. Wingers, do mine seem to have less room than yours and do you think they might be bent?
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Do they or the rear guards have any rash from being used?

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Your case guards are known as 98 style (1998>) Case guards on one of my 1500's, known as 88 style (1988>1997)


your guards are not bent, just classic Honda cheap as chips.

Change yours for 88 style, they are easy to get in the US I would imagine.
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Big Blue, that is a very pretty 1500 you have. Love that color.

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These are my 1994 stock engine guards, not sure how easy it is going to be to get them.

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Thank you bellboy. 37 years riding GoldWings come April, that Aspencade was my last solo.











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That is some more pretty pics of the 1500. Looks like we started riding Goldwings about the same time (39 years for me). I got my 1st one (79 GL1000) in 1980 and have had at least one of all the versions except the 1800. This is my current ride.

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DougEFresh1123 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:33 pm
These are my 1994 stock engine guards, not sure how easy it is going to be to get them.

Right side - 62501-MN5-000
Left side - 62601-MN5-000


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No idea who made the factory guards Doug, or who actually makes the aftermarket ones, I believe one is not superior to the other though, I fitted aftermarket guards to my last Aspencade because they were too tarnished and pitted.
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Big Blue UK wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:30 pm

No idea who made the factory guards Doug, or who actually makes the aftermarket ones, I believe one is not superior to the other though, I fitted aftermarket guards to my last Aspencade because they were too tarnished and pitted.
Since they changed the style in 1997 will the older versions even be compatible?

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bellboy40 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:09 pm
That is some more pretty pics of the 1500. Looks like we started riding Goldwings about the same time (39 years for me). I got my 1st one (79 GL1000) in 1980 and have had at least one of all the versions except the 1800. This is my current ride.
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DougEFresh1123 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:34 pm
Big Blue UK wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:30 pm

No idea who made the factory guards Doug, or who actually makes the aftermarket ones, I believe one is not superior to the other though, I fitted aftermarket guards to my last Aspencade because they were too tarnished and pitted.
Since they changed the style in 1997 will the older versions even be compatible?

Doug
All Honda did was bring them up to date, I doubt if cutting out the cost of the rail from the top front, to the rear lower mount crossed their minds, the mounting points did not change. henst 88 n 98 'style', and not 88 n 98 'type'.
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Corkster52 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:10 am
I basically struggled a lot of time this summer trying to get the highway pegs I bought attached to my engine guards. Ideally, with my legs not being all that long, I would have liked to attach them on the horizontal section of the engine guards below the valve covers but there was just not enough room to put them there. When I traveled about 200 miles to help a buddy load up a 97 1500 that he had bought, I noticed that there was a lot more room around the engine guards that he had. The pics attached are of my guards and his. His have the gold center pieces on the valve covers. Wingers, do mine seem to have less room than yours and do you think they might be bent?

I have a 2000 Goldwing that had the same problem with engine guard being close to valve covers. i just stuck a long prybar between the horizontal part of the engine guard and the cylinder head near the end the guard and bent down until i got the room i needed for my Kury ergo mounts.

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Corkster52 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:10 am
I basically struggled a lot of time this summer trying to get the highway pegs I bought attached to my engine guards. Ideally, with my legs not being all that long, I would have liked to attach them on the horizontal section of the engine guards below the valve covers but there was just not enough room to put them there. When I traveled about 200 miles to help a buddy load up a 97 1500 that he had bought, I noticed that there was a lot more room around the engine guards that he had. The pics attached are of my guards and his. His have the gold center pieces on the valve covers. Wingers, do mine seem to have less room than yours and do you think they might be bent?


yours look like they are bent. here is a pic of what the space should be between the horizontal bar and valve cover.
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I reckon it is the angle at which the pic was taken.
Damn that is clean, do you know when it was taken.
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moreira72 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:00 pm
I have a 2000 Goldwing that had the same problem with engine guard being close to valve covers. i just stuck a long prybar between the horizontal part of the engine guard and the cylinder head near the end the guard and bent down until i got the room i needed for my Kury ergo mounts.
That took some guts
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Big Blue UK wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:53 am
moreira72 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:00 pm
I have a 2000 Goldwing that had the same problem with engine guard being close to valve covers. i just stuck a long prybar between the horizontal part of the engine guard and the cylinder head near the end the guard and bent down until i got the room i needed for my Kury ergo mounts.
That took some guts
You just have remove the exhaust cover so you can place the pry bar against the cylinder head and as far back on the crash bar as possible. if you see my ergo mount in this picture, I placed the pry bar about 1 inch or so past it.
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moreira72 wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:08 pm
You just have remove the exhaust cover so you can place the pry bar against the cylinder head and as far back on the crash bar as possible. if you see my ergo mount in this picture, I placed the pry bar about 1 inch or so past it.
That took some guts

I found these, made by Add-On, on the Cyclemax website. https://www.cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl ... ds/79/1257

And these on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DJBFHU0/?tag=goldwingdocs-20 ... _lig_dp_it

And even these on Ebay with highway pegs installed https://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Honda-Gol ... 1438.l2649 I did email the seller to ask if there were any dents or bent places on them.

But the OEM price, just for one side...Insane! https://www.revzilla.com/oem/honda/hond ... d-r-engine

I've had good luck with Cyclemax qualitywise over the years, so I think I will order a set from them.

Thank all of you guys for some great feedback! :) :) :) It is information like this from fellow bikers that make this website my first go-to place when I have any kind of issue :!: :!:

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moreira72 wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:08 pm
if you see my ergo mount in this picture
Almost hard to see your mount with all of that amazingly polished surrounding parts :o :o

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I measured the gap between 1" bar and the valve covers. The right side was .235" and the left side was .416" measuring as far back as I could on each. The gap on the front of each was only a few thousandths different. I think I will just get a set of the old style from Amazon and if they won't work the way I need in order to get the highway pegs installed, I will send them back and possibly try bending the ones I have.

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DougEFresh1123 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:34 pm
Big Blue UK wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:30 pm

No idea who made the factory guards Doug, or who actually makes the aftermarket ones, I believe one is not superior to the other though, I fitted aftermarket guards to my last Aspencade because they were too tarnished and pitted.
Since they changed the style in 1997 will the older versions even be compatible?

Doug
They all will work on all 1500s but the 1988-1997 have the loop, the 1998, 89, and 2000 have the single lower tube only.

Of the ones with the loop ('88-'97), I think there was a change made in later years that bent the rear outward slightly to clear rider toes, … or … maybe they all did? I like the loop ones because they offer better support for rider cruise boards and a place for my air horns to mount.


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CrystalPistol wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:09 pm
I like the loop ones because they offer better support for rider cruise boards and a place for my air horns to mount.cruise & horns.jpg
Yep, that exactly why I want them. I have had a heck of a time getting my added LEDs and highway pegs mounted!

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Corkster52 wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:57 am
Yep, that exactly why I want them. I have had a heck of a time getting my added LEDs and highway pegs mounted!
:D Yeah, I recall when the '98s came out, lot's of guys wanted to swap out for the older loop style guards for that reason, but the new guards did/do look sleeker or slimmer or something like that …
… and then a lot of guys with '97 or older 1500s wanted the '98 headlights. I never rode one to judge on the white faced gauges myself …
… but I did like the looks of the mufflers & even got a set later on after getting the trike, but they are loud with the X-tractor, and they terminate up under the trike so they are not seen anyway, the '97 mufflers have 2" round ends & I extended them to exit out from under the trike, less drone.
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Corkster52 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:36 am

I found these, made by Add-On, on the Cyclemax website. https://www.cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl ... ds/79/1257

And these on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DJBFHU0/?tag=goldwingdocs-20 ... _lig_dp_it

And even these on Ebay with highway pegs installed https://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Honda-Gol ... 1438.l2649 I did email the seller to ask if there were any dents or bent places on them.

But the OEM price, just for one side...Insane! https://www.revzilla.com/oem/honda/hond ... d-r-engine

I've had good luck with Cyclemax qualitywise over the years, so I think I will order a set from them.
Well, after going to a number of places, and finding "not in stock" on a number of them, I finally ordered a set from Saber-Cycle for $163. The should be here tomorrow :D

On my old girl, I hate ripping off Tupperware that I have not touched because I ALWAYS find something else that needs attention :( :(

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Corkster52 wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:00 pm
Corkster52 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:36 am

I found these, made by Add-On, on the Cyclemax website. https://www.cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl ... ds/79/1257

And these on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DJBFHU0/?tag=goldwingdocs-20 ... _lig_dp_it

And even these on Ebay with highway pegs installed https://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Honda-Gol ... 1438.l2649 I did email the seller to ask if there were any dents or bent places on them.

But the OEM price, just for one side...Insane! https://www.revzilla.com/oem/honda/hond ... d-r-engine

I've had good luck with Cyclemax qualitywise over the years, so I think I will order a set from them.
Well, after going to a number of places, and finding "not in stock" on a number of them, I finally ordered a set from Saber-Cycle for $163. The should be here tomorrow :D

On my old girl, I hate ripping off Tupperware that I have not touched because I ALWAYS find something else that needs attention :( :(
Good luck with those crap Saber Cycle guards...we've had other people here who bought those, and found they couldn't get them to fit, they were made so that one of the mounts was off by almost a whole inch (and of course, they'll tell you that it's your fault because you don't know what you're doing). I recall one user tried to force it and a weld failed on the new guards. Others found that the chrome failed and they rusted after only a year.

But then...it's Saber Cycle, so it's pretty much to be expected.

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WingAdmin wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:15 pm

Good luck with those crap Saber Cycle guards...we've had other people here who bought those, and found they couldn't get them to fit, they were made so that one of the mounts was off by almost a whole inch (and of course, they'll tell you that it's your fault because you don't know what you're doing). I recall one user tried to force it and a weld failed on the new guards. Others found that the chrome failed and they rusted after only a year.

But then...it's Saber Cycle, so it's pretty much to be expected.
Dang it! :!: That being the case, I guess I will just take one side off and if the dimensions are that far off I will return them.



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