CLUTCH MASTER CYLINDER


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CLUTCH MASTER CYLINDER

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good afternoon from sc.

i have a request with a question, 1988 goldwing, clutch master cylinder needs replacing, can not get one through HONDA . i have found one on amazon, now it has a set of numbers to describe it 22 mm for handle bars and " 7/8" number. on the cylinder of the bike is 22 x 5/8 ... the question is-- what does the number " 7/8" apply to and can i still use NEW ONE on my machine??
second question: it, the new one does not have the cruse control shut off. can i still use the new one with my bike?? and will the foot brake still turn off the cruse?
I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO RIDE FOR A WEEK NOW :( pore me. but i will thank you all for information needed in advance.



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My math shows 7/8" is 22mm.
I do not know the 5/8 reference.
Also the cruise cutoff switch.If your old switch assembly won't fit on the "new" one,you could connect the 2 wires together that attached to the cruise cutoff switch.Actulally a bypass.
Would it be easier to rebuild you unit?
The "new" one may be in the same shape as yours???

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NO SIR ON THE REBUILD, BOUGHT THE REBUILD KIT BEFORE TAKING IT APART, PISTON CYLINDER I D WAS CONTAMINATED WITH RUST.
I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT, THE WIRES CONNECT TOGETHER, GREAT IDEA, AND WILL DO. WITH THE 7/8 IS JUST TWO REFERENCES OF SIZE I ASSUME BECAUSE OF YOUR RESPONSE OF 22MM.



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THE CLUTCH MASTER I AM BUYING IS NEW.



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If the old master cylinder was rusted,you might inspect the slave cylinder too.
Keep us posted on the retrofit.
It would be nice to know what does and does not work.Ive got a 88 also.

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HEY THANKS AGAIN AND WILL KEEP Y'ALL POSTED.

SLAVE IS ALL KNEW, CLUTCH PLATES ALSO BUT I DID OR SHOULD HAVE PUT BETTER PRESSURE PLATE IN . I HAD ALSO DONE THAT TO MY 1975 GOLD WING BACK IN THE DAY.

P.S. HAVE TO FIX BUGS IN BIKE THAT OLD AS YOU GO I GUESS. NEXT WILL BE TIMING BELTS, I HAVE 51000. ON IT NOW. THE 75 BLEW A BELT AT SAME MILEAGE.

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I'm curious, won't a clutch master cylinder from a later model GL1500 work?
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MikeB wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:40 pm
I'm curious, won't a clutch master cylinder from a later model GL1500 work?
I would be willing to bet it would. Looks identical in the parts breakdown. It does have a different part number. However, the piston assembly with the seals is the same part number from 88-2000. So it might just be a slight external difference like paint color.

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THAT IS FUNNY YOU HAVE ASKED THAT, BECAUSE I JUST GOT BACK FROM LOOKING AT BROTHERS FROM ANOTHER MOTHER"S BIKE BUT I AM NOT ABSOLUTE POSITIVE OF THE YEAR. IT IS EITHER A 91 OR 2001 1500 AND THE CLUTCH IS A MATCH TO MY 88.

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Rambozo wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:23 pm
MikeB wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:40 pm
I'm curious, won't a clutch master cylinder from a later model GL1500 work?
I would be willing to bet it would. Looks identical in the parts breakdown. It does have a different part number. However, the piston assembly with the seals is the same part number from 88-2000. So it might just be a slight external difference like paint color.
I'm thinking the same thing.
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well ladies and gentlemen.

well i had ordered the set of clutch master cyl. and brake. the cost on amazon was 41.00 dollars which had me worried because one from Honda would have been a hundred or more. they came in yesterday and i put one on, it is a little tight to the handlebar because of the added plastic covering the handle bars. i have not had time to play with the assembly of them yet because OF working. but will keep you posted. they look high quality and with my points at amazon only paid $5.00 for both. yee haaa

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Take pictures too..we all want to see.

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OH BOY, I THOUGHT OF IT AND SAID TO MYSELF, HOW AM I GOING TO DO THAT?? BUT I WILL WORK ON IT.

I AM ALSO WORKING ON THE AIR PUMP ALSO, WILL TRY WITH BOTH.


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OK, I HAVE TRIED TO UPLOAD PIC'S AND HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, CAIN'T GET THEM TO UPLOAD ONTO MY COMPUTER.
NOW THE MASTER CLUTCH AND BRAKE THAT I ORDERED FOR $41.00 DOLLARS WERE WORTH THE COST BUT AND I MEAN A BIG B U T. THEY BLED OUT OK BUT I COULD NOT GET THE CLUTCH TO STOP DRAGGING OR GRABBING, I THEN THOUGHT WITH THE SHORTER HANDEL ON THESE UNITS THAT THE PISTON STROKE DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH THROW TO DISENGAGE THE THE CLUTCH . SOOOO I AM ON MY WAY TO SPORTS CYCLE TO LOOK AT A 2000 ERA CLUTCH. ONE OF Y'AL MENTIONED THAT AT AN EARLIER POST. TILL THEN OVER AND OUT...

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guns-up wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:52 am
OK, I HAVE TRIED TO UPLOAD PIC'S AND HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, CAIN'T GET THEM TO UPLOAD ONTO MY COMPUTER.
NOW THE MASTER CLUTCH AND BRAKE THAT I ORDERED FOR $41.00 DOLLARS WERE WORTH THE COST BUT AND I MEAN A BIG B U T. THEY BLED OUT OK BUT I COULD NOT GET THE CLUTCH TO STOP DRAGGING OR GRABBING, I THEN THOUGHT WITH THE SHORTER HANDEL ON THESE UNITS THAT THE PISTON STROKE DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH THROW TO DISENGAGE THE THE CLUTCH . SOOOO I AM ON MY WAY TO SPORTS CYCLE TO LOOK AT A 2000 ERA CLUTCH. ONE OF Y'AL MENTIONED THAT AT AN EARLIER POST. TILL THEN OVER AND OUT...

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First, please try to refrain from using all capital letters. Capitalization of your entire sentence makes it look like you are shouting. That kind of emphasis is not really necessary.

For a tutorial on how to add pictures to your messages, look here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5647

Getting pictures to upload to your computer is a different story. If you are taking pictures with your phone, then try emailing them to yourself and then saving the pictures to your computers hard drive. Save them in a file folder that you will be able to readily identify such as Photos. Then upload pictures from that file folder to your message. There are other ways to get the photos to your computer but not knowing your level of computer knowledge, I think the above method may be the easiest.

One note on the master cylinder, it usually best to use an original equipment manufacturer (OEM) part when you are replacing parts on your bike. As we mentioned earlier, the master cylinders of all the GL1500's from '88 to '00 are virtually identical. You should give one of them a try.
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sorry about the caps, i do it so i can see what i am typing.

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ok just got back from sports cycle. i have ordered a 2000 gold wing clutch master cylinder and if it is not right i can not get my money back. $144.00. master cyl sub-assembly== #22890-mam-a61 .
well thats all i have for now.
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p.s. will give the suggestions a try with pic"s, thanks.



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