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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by guitarzan » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:39 am



1st gear shows up on my Gear Indicator / Volt Meter, if you want to see it, I'll take a picture for you.

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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by troussos » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:37 pm

Sure. Thank you. Which indicator modwl do you have?
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by CrystalPistol » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:58 pm

troussos wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:37 pm
Sure. Thank you. Which indicator modwl do you have?
I think he's got the Air Rider one too. Mine also will / does show 1, - ,2, 3, 4, 5 (with the "-" being Neutral). I posted pics of it showing "5" with OD light lit and "-" with green N light lit … but I never took a picture in 1st.

I see my volts were 13.6 both times too. The one in neutral was taken in my yard, the one in 5th gear was taken north bound approaching Mt Jackson, Va. on US Rt 11.
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by troussos » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:08 pm

That's GREAT news!
Now, I just need to find an Air Rider for the GL1500!
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by troussos » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:09 pm

Hey... I don't suppose your units came with a schematic?? I could get a harness from a donor GL and make one myself...
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by CrystalPistol » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:13 pm

troussos wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:09 pm
Hey... I don't suppose your units came with a schematic?? I could get a harness from a donor GL and make one myself...
I'll have a look later today and post. Whatever came with it is in my file cabinet down there.
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by guitarzan » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:44 pm

Hello,
CrystalPistol and I have the same kind, Air Rider and they function exactly alike. I didn't start my Goldwing so you'll see that the voltage is a little low. There was no schematic with it. Here's the picture and if I can, I'd be happy to help you all I can

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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by troussos » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:50 pm

Ok. Looks great. There is a guy in Ohio called the Goldwing doctor and another guy in Cleveland, Alsir., who sells nothing but parts new and used just for gold wings. I'm hoping one of them will have what I'm looking for.

I'm currently waiting for a response from either or both of them.
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:50 pm

troussos wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:20 am
Well, according to the schematic, there is no wire on the harness connector, but it does show the position on the switch. Question is: Is there actually a physical pin on the switch to connect?
Goldwing gear wiring 02 (Medium).jpg
If not, I'll have to create a logic circuit that detects a lack of a ground on any pin sends a ground to the #1 indicator pin. :D
No. The ECU assumes that "no pin grounded" means it is in first gear. So yes, there is some logic involved.

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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by guitarzan » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:09 pm

Troussos
If you find one please let me know, I'll be looking around for you too.
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by troussos » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:54 pm

Great. Thank you very much!
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by CrystalPistol » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:19 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:50 pm
troussos wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:20 am
Well, according to the schematic, there is no wire on the harness connector, but it does show the position on the switch. Question is: Is there actually a physical pin on the switch to connect?
Goldwing gear wiring 02 (Medium).jpg
If not, I'll have to create a logic circuit that detects a lack of a ground on any pin sends a ground to the #1 indicator pin. :D
No. The ECU assumes that "no pin grounded" means it is in first gear. So yes, there is some logic involved.
Just a follow up to say I looked and found the literature that came with mine, it's just same as already posted earlier, there was no schematic. I did turn the trike "on" and photographed each gear, but I see that "1" is already posted here too.

I noticed that when shifting with trike on & motor off, if it occasionally stopped between gears, like if no longer in 3rd but not quite in 4th yet either, the gear indicator showed a "1" … I rekon as there was then no signal. Honda Electrical manual says that the indicator reports only 5 positions, (ie: N 2 3 4 5), so "1" is not reported to the ECU (or is it ECM?).

When I rocked the trike and pulled up on shifter and when it went into the next gear, the "1" changed to that gear. You'd likely never notice that when riding.

I also saw that my OD light is burnt out as it did not light tonight in 5th. I have a few spare bulbs, so might be doing that soon? With all lights on, motor off, I was seeing 11.8-12.0 VDC too, but my maintainer was still hooked up.
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by bellboy40 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:56 pm

Hey Pistol, you mentioned that your overdrive light is out. Well so is mine. I didn't notice it for a while but I haven't missed it since I refer to the Air Rider gear indicator to check if I am in overdrive anyway. Do you know if that light can be accessed without pulling the dash apart? Maybe it could be changed by reaching up under and behind the panel to get the bulb out. I haven't tried yet but may do that when I get back out there.

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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by troussos » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:09 pm

Hey gentlemen, I believe I saw an article on this forum on upgrading dash lights to LED. Since you likely need to perform a major operation to get to the lamps, upgrading may eliminate the need to go back in the near to distant future and also decrease current draw, especially if also upgrading headlamps.
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by CrystalPistol » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:17 pm

bellboy40 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:56 pm
Hey Pistol, you mentioned that your overdrive light is out. Well so is mine. I didn't notice it for a while but I haven't missed it since I refer to the Air Rider gear indicator to check if I am in overdrive anyway. Do you know if that light can be accessed without pulling the dash apart? Maybe it could be changed by reaching up under and behind the panel to get the bulb out. I haven't tried yet but may do that when I get back out there.
Two or three years ago I swapped out all of them, just assumed PITA again, but you may be onto something there? I know it used to light up in 5th.

EDIT: Well, I checked, and I don't think it's so easy to do.
troussos wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:09 pm
Hey gentlemen, I believe I saw an article on this forum on upgrading dash lights to LED. Since you likely need to perform a major operation to get to the lamps, upgrading may eliminate the need to go back in the near to distant future and also decrease current draw, especially if also upgrading headlamps.
You probably did …
… and I even almost did it all LEDs last time, but then I didn't. I re-used the OEM little colored booties over new bulbs. It's not a bad job, but it takes time.
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by Rambozo » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:58 pm

And in that same thread, one great tip was to swap the cruise lights from amber to green since amber and red are more for warning. That way you are more likely to notice problems.

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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by DenverWinger » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:40 pm

Just remember you can't change the Low Fuel light to LED, they won't work correctly with the thermistor sensor in the tank and just be lit all the time. :(

It "Could" be made to work, but you'd have to design some electronic circuitry to do it. :ugeek:

The LED would work correctly if the tank thermistor sensor has been replaced by a float ad described in another thread on the site..... :idea:
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by WingAdmin » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:39 pm

DenverWinger wrote:
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Just remember you can't change the Low Fuel light to LED, they won't work correctly with the thermistor sensor in the tank and just be lit all the time. :(

It "Could" be made to work, but you'd have to design some electronic circuitry to do it. :ugeek:

The LED would work correctly if the tank thermistor sensor has been replaced by a float ad described in another thread on the site..... :idea:
Virgil and I both did that, using the brake fluid float sensor assembly from a Honda Civic and a flasher circuit. I love this mod - once I have exactly 1 gallon left (I calibrated it thusly) I get a flashing light on the dash to let me know to start thinking about finding fuel. It's saved me more than once.

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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by troussos » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:44 pm

Wow...Outstanding mod idea!
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by guitarzan » Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:38 pm

Hi,
I have a air rider volt meter / gear indicator, I want to power it from an axillary fuse block so I get an accurate voltage reading, it's plug and play and if someone who has an air rider like this and power it off an axillary fuse block , which of the plugs is the power?

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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by CrystalPistol » Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:14 am

The twin lead bundle is volts.

The other or multi lead bundle is the gear position lead or feed.

Initially, I installed as instructions say, ie: "plug & play".

A few years later, I rewired the ground & power to volt meter via a dedicated separate ground & relay / fuse / from the battery, the accessory terminal just trips the relay, I saw maybe 1/2 volt difference at most . That day in 2005 when it let me know my alternator was down it was wired simply "plug & play". Mine does have a Comp-u-Fire, shows 13.6 or a hair more when warmed up (temp compensating VR cuts back after warmed up).

When wired "P&P" it still showed 13.2 or more when warmed.
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by guitarzan » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:51 pm

Maybe I should just leave well enough alone, ya think? Oh, Happy New Year to you and yours.

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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by troussos » Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:24 pm

Well, since it was R & D'd as plug n play...
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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by agedbikeman » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:31 am

There are quite a lot of aftermarket ones on Ebay for around $15, they are generic not just for goldwings, for any bike, programmable, I'm going to get one, if it's junk for $15, not the end of the world

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Re: Gear indicator manufacturer

Post by jbaviera » Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:16 am

I ordered this indicator from Amazon:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07 ... UTF8&psc=1

It even has "Reverse", if you so desire to wire it in. It doesn't have the connectors you'll need to plug it in, but if you have a "donor" harness, you should be able to wire it in easily enough.
Though I never looked, I'd be reasonably certain that the connectors can be found as well.


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