Darkside: No Taxi Tire...now what?


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Re: Darkside: No Taxi Tire...now what?

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Solo So Long wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:50 pm
AZgl1800 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 8:20 am 2nd: I predict that you will NOT suffer any loss in Miles per gallon fuel use.
The difference in RPM for a given speed is not all that much more than what it was.
Just FYI, if the tire is heavier, there may be a decrease in fuel mileage. Probably not enough to worry about.
with my '02 1800, the mpg between tanks of fuel, with and without my trailer, did not vary enough to make it worthy of note.

the difference in weight for just the tire, is so miniscule as to be totally discounted.

the real world effects are directly related to Throttle use, and terrain, and Headwinds.

Throttle use includes trying to out run the Speed Limits....
In Oklahoma, we now have some roads with speed zones at 75 mph, and Texas has roads marked at 80 mph.

I personally am not patient enough to ride slow enough to get 40 mpg per tank of fuel.
average for me is in the 33 to 37 mpg range.






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Re: Darkside: No Taxi Tire...now what?

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AZgl1800 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:23 am the difference in weight for just the tire, is so miniscule as to be totally discounted.
Probably. But rotating weight (tires) costs more than fixed weight (the frame, etc). Many years ago, I raced bicycles, and we figured that an ounce on the tire took as much work to move as two ounces on the frame.
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Re: Darkside: No Taxi Tire...now what?

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WingAdmin makes valid points. IMHO- do what you want. Run what you like. My original point about tire manufacturers is that they will NOT say "sure put that car tire on your motorcycle"... their lawyers won't let that happen. the car tire is not designed for motorcycles- would you put motorcycle tires on your Accord? no.. not unless you did so to get home!

I have a trike.. YES I HAVE CAR TIRES ON THE REAR AXLE! Will I put one on the FRONT tire? probably not. But, logically, I could because the trike doesn't ride on the sides of the tires in a turn...It just never occurred to me to consider it- that's the motorcycle end of the bike,.
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Re: Darkside: No Taxi Tire...now what?

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Solo So Long wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:11 am
AZgl1800 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:23 am the difference in weight for just the tire, is so miniscule as to be totally discounted.
Probably. But rotating weight (tires) costs more than fixed weight (the frame, etc). Many years ago, I raced bicycles, and we figured that an ounce on the tire took as much work to move as two ounces on the frame.
Correct. Unsprung weight (the part of the wheel/tire/brakes that is on the "road" side of the suspension) costs heavily in terms of efficiency, mileage, traction, and more.

Racing teams go to great expense to put extremely light magnesium wheels, lightweight tires and lightweight aluminum allow suspension members to get the unsprung weight down as much as possible. You'd be surprised just how little those giant wheels and tires weigh that you see on racing cars.
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Re: Darkside: No Taxi Tire...now what?

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bought a 175r16 for my gl1800 but it will not work too tall it is supposed to be replacement for taxi tire looked good on rim but at 27" tall it hit front swing arm [suspension]
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jimm4 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:11 am bought a 175r16 for my gl1800 but it will not work too tall it is supposed to be replacement for taxi tire looked good on rim but at 27" tall it hit front swing arm [suspension]
???

you mean that you put it on a 1500 bike, right?

175R16 is smaller than the stock 195R16 for a gl1800.
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i did not put on a 1500 i own a 03 1800 that is what i got it for it MAY fit a 1500 they say it is replacement for austone taxi tire
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wore out a 195/55/rf16 i was replacing it and was trying to get my speedomiter back right [diameter of tire ] 5mph off at 60 mph i took a shot and missed by 1/2 " so going back with 195 55 rf also going dd
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Re: Darkside: No Taxi Tire...now what?

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Hey everyone first time posting. On the subject of darkside tires. After much reading i decided to try it. Found this tire on Ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/263835509921. An Achilles Multivan 195/65/16 It has worked very well for for 10,000mi now Installed with the counter balance beads and no issues. Putting the Ride-On for motorcycles, balance bead with sealant in the front tire this year to see what happens. It's a D rated tire so to make it a little skinnier and give it a round profile i run it at 60 psi with out an issue. I also pull a little trailer at highway speeds and don't even know its there. Had to deflate it completely to get it between the swing arm; but it will fit. Inflated and checked clearance all is well. Great tire at a great price, will order this tire again. Looking for my pics to upload later.


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