turn signal blub
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turn signal blub
I have on my 2000A the right amber light burned out ... since I be in there to change the bulb I want to change all the bulbs to in the fairing to LED's ... I looked at replacement bulbs... the more I dug the more I got confused ... So I asking follow Wingers if they replaced the fairing lights to LED's what bulbs goes where ... I guess maybe a loaded question like what oil to use... but I would be thankful for all opinions
P.S:
PO changed the headlights to H4 ... (got paperwork) I guess the headlights are already LED's ???
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PO changed the headlights to H4 ... (got paperwork) I guess the headlights are already LED's ???
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Re: turn signal blub
Why change? Often LEDs that don't draw much current also fail to draw enough current to cycle the flasher.
"H4"s are 55/60watt Halogen bulbs. Sometimes you'll see them listed as "9003/H4", but unless it specifies otherwise, they are still Halogen 55/60 watt bulbs.
"H4"s are 55/60watt Halogen bulbs. Sometimes you'll see them listed as "9003/H4", but unless it specifies otherwise, they are still Halogen 55/60 watt bulbs.
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Re: turn signal blub
what's a good contact cleaner... the trouble with the amber parking light was a dirty connection where it plugs into the wiring harness ... will some sort of electronic spray cleaner work ??? and would a dielectric silicone help the connection from corroding ??? yes thoughts of pondering Ohhhh ... one more.... the speedometer pointer is starting to wobble up and down and not pointing to a steady speed ... thoughts of what may be the best to use ... wish to thank all who replies for your knowledge is golden and isn't taken for granted
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Re: turn signal blub
Your speedometer cable needs to be greased. Remove the left rotor cover to gain access to cable. Unbolt cable, pull out and remove inner cable without dropping it in the dirt.
Wipe clean with a rag, re-grease and reinstall.
Back in the day official automobile speedometer cable lube was of a sticky consistency that was more like a gel.

Back in the day official automobile speedometer cable lube was of a sticky consistency that was more like a gel.
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Re: turn signal blub
For the signal lights, push the end connectors on the wires through the rubber insert and spray with silicone spray so they will be able to move in their spaces. They dry out and are tight in the rubber insert. Then lube the bulb with dielectric grease to promote connectivity and keep moisture out. It is not too important to replace turn signal bulbs with LEDs because they aren't on so much, and, with LED turn signals they will hyper flash. Then you will have to install resistors to remedy that situation, or, install an electronic flasher, which, as I have read, will negate your auto cancel.
The speedometer cable can be lubed with a white lithium grease. I have used this grease for over 50 years without ever a problem.
Russell
The speedometer cable can be lubed with a white lithium grease. I have used this grease for over 50 years without ever a problem.
Russell
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Re: turn signal blub
would moly grease work for the cable ??ct1500 wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 7:36 pmYour speedometer cable needs to be greased. Remove the left rotor cover to gain access to cable. Unbolt cable, pull out and remove inner cable without dropping it in the dirt.Wipe clean with a rag, re-grease and reinstall.
Back in the day official automobile speedometer cable lube was of a sticky consistency that was more like a gel.
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Re: turn signal blub
thank you .. for the reply have to go buy some dielectric greaseCharlie1Horse wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:07 pmFor the signal lights, push the end connectors on the wires through the rubber insert and spray with silicone spray so they will be able to move in their spaces. They dry out and are tight in the rubber insert. Then lube the bulb with dielectric grease to promote connectivity and keep moisture out. It is not too important to replace turn signal bulbs with LEDs because they aren't on so much, and, with LED turn signals they will hyper flash. Then you will have to install resistors to remedy that situation, or, install an electronic flasher, which, as I have read, will negate your auto cancel.
The speedometer cable can be lubed with a white lithium grease. I have used this grease for over 50 years without ever a problem.
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Re: turn signal blub
I would only use graphite lube, like Lock Ease. Anything else would most likely be too thick and gummy.in2it wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 12:38 amwould moly grease work for the cable ??ct1500 wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 7:36 pmYour speedometer cable needs to be greased. Remove the left rotor cover to gain access to cable. Unbolt cable, pull out and remove inner cable without dropping it in the dirt.Wipe clean with a rag, re-grease and reinstall.
Back in the day official automobile speedometer cable lube was of a sticky consistency that was more like a gel.
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Re: turn signal blub
Sure, why not give it a go with a good coating. Don't do the tip which goes into the speedo head. I am not a big believer in sprays which are light on application such as dry lubes that say they will coat parts long term.

I like to see something there same as the speedo cable lubes of years long gone.
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Re: turn signal blub
Moly is the wrong kind of lubrication for this. Moly is meant for lubricating two things that don't move much relative to each other (like a spline drive). You need something that will lubricate well for something that moves continually. Someone already mentioned graphite lubricant, and that's what I would recommend (and have always used on speedometer/tachometer cables).
I use a graphite aerosol spray, where you spray it in like spray paint (and it's black and will stain like spray paint, so be careful!). Once the carrier evaporates, it leaves behind an extremely slippery dry graphite coating that is an excellent lubricant.
I use this device to spray lubricant into the cable, and it works very well (also works great on brake/clutch cables, if you have those): https://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-08-01 ... r_1_1_sspa
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Re: turn signal blub
I agree... like to see somethingct1500 wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 6:18 amSure, why not give it a go with a good coating. Don't do the tip which goes into the speedo head. I am not a big believer in sprays which are light on application such as dry lubes that say they will coat parts long term.
I like to see something there same as the speedo cable lubes of years long gone.
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Re: turn signal blub
Back to the LED turn signal lights... If I understand what's being said, a LED relay would let use LED bulbs without the hyper flashing and no need of resistors, right? But you would loose the self canceling feature... I am not a big fan of the self canceling thing. I am more like old school. I can turn my signal turn off manually...
Could someone confirm that indeed the self canceling feature would be disable if one was to use a LED relay for the signal turn?...
Thanks.
Could someone confirm that indeed the self canceling feature would be disable if one was to use a LED relay for the signal turn?...
Thanks.
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Re: turn signal blub
H4 is more a fitment type, like the 1157, 1156 bulbs. The flashers are easy enough to replace, yeah, a PITA being under the trunk, but replace the thermal flasher with electronic (plug and play with the right one) and you can run LED in your turn signals. I've changed my brake lights to LED and noticed a big difference in more light output on running and brake lights.
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Re: turn signal blub
Elmobile wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 6:43 pmBack to the LED turn signal lights... If I understand what's being said, a LED relay would let use LED bulbs without the hyper flashing and no need of resistors, right? But you would loose the self canceling feature... I am not a big fan of the self canceling thing. I am more like old school. I can turn my signal turn off manually...
Could someone confirm that indeed the self canceling feature would be disable if one was to use a LED relay for the signal turn?...
Thanks.
Honestly, I'd go with the LEDs and electronic flashers. I've heard the same about losing auto-cancel, but honestly, mine keeps canceling when I DON'T want it to anyway, I've had my Wing for just over 5 years and I STILL hit to cancel my turn signals anyway, muscle memory is hard to overcome sometimes, lol.
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Re: turn signal blub
That's correct.Elmobile wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 6:43 pmBack to the LED turn signal lights... If I understand what's being said, a LED relay would let use LED bulbs without the hyper flashing and no need of resistors, right? But you would loose the self canceling feature... I am not a big fan of the self canceling thing. I am more like old school. I can turn my signal turn off manually...
Could someone confirm that indeed the self canceling feature would be disable if one was to use a LED relay for the signal turn?...
Thanks.
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Re: turn signal blub
Hey Scott, Does that cable luber work ok for you? It has several reviews on Amazon that says it either leaks a lot or just doesn't work for them. I'm thinking it may be that they don't know how to use it properly. I was thinking of getting one to lube the throttle cables. Do you use it for that?WingAdmin wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 11:45 amsnip....
I use this device to spray lubricant into the cable, and it works very well (also works great on brake/clutch cables, if you have those): https://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-08-01 ... r_1_1_sspa
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Re: turn signal blub
I have used it on throttle cables, yes, and speedometer cables. I suspect the same - not using it correctly could end up spraying all over? I've never had that problem, it worked fine every time I've used it.bellboy40 wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:00 pmHey Scott, Does that cable luber work ok for you? It has several reviews on Amazon that says it either leaks a lot or just doesn't work for them. I'm thinking it may be that they don't know how to use it properly. I was thinking of getting one to lube the throttle cables. Do you use it for that?WingAdmin wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 11:45 amsnip....
I use this device to spray lubricant into the cable, and it works very well (also works great on brake/clutch cables, if you have those): https://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-08-01 ... r_1_1_sspa
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Re: turn signal blub
Ok, thanks for the info. That is what I suspected after reading how some of them described their issue.
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Re: turn signal blub
Cyclemax has an electronic flasher unit. Supposed to work for the 1500 as well as the 1800. Will probably go with that one.
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Re: turn signal blub
Indeed they do... Thanks for the tip. I have it on mu wish list...
www.cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/vip_led_tu ... 120/447133
LED Turn Signal Flasher (SCMGL88T1)
www.cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/vip_led_tu ... 120/447133
LED Turn Signal Flasher (SCMGL88T1)
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Re: turn signal blub
Not trying to stir the pot about self canceling... I talked to Gary about this (emailed back and forth) he set me up with LED's turn signals, running lights and Headlights with the flasher for the LED's .... unless I miss understood him he said that I would still have self canceling using the flasher that he sent... I haven't installed the flasher as of yet.. but boy I do like the LED's ... they light up the road.... I also notice driving during the day that people aren't pulling out in front of me from parking lots and side streets as they once did ... I guess the extra brightness helps in that regards ... whatever it is I like the respect that is being shown
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Converting the turn signals to LED and using the flasher will I still have self canceling on the turn signals ???
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Converting the turn signals to LED and using the flasher will I still have self canceling on the turn signals ???
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Re: turn signal blub
thank you for the info and the linkWingAdmin wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 11:45 amMoly is the wrong kind of lubrication for this. Moly is meant for lubricating two things that don't move much relative to each other (like a spline drive). You need something that will lubricate well for something that moves continually. Someone already mentioned graphite lubricant, and that's what I would recommend (and have always used on speedometer/tachometer cables).
I use a graphite aerosol spray, where you spray it in like spray paint (and it's black and will stain like spray paint, so be careful!). Once the carrier evaporates, it leaves behind an extremely slippery dry graphite coating that is an excellent lubricant.
I use this device to spray lubricant into the cable, and it works very well (also works great on brake/clutch cables, if you have those): https://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-08-01 ... r_1_1_sspa
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Re: turn signal blub
Elmobile wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 8:46 amIndeed they do... Thanks for the tip. I have it on mu wish list...
www.cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/vip_led_tu ... 120/447133
LED Turn Signal Flasher (SCMGL88T1)
Probably need 2, for the hazards as well
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Re: turn signal blub
Very good point DarthJ,
Just wondering if any one has already done it?
I contacted Gary at Cycle Max Who could not answer if the relay SCMGL88T1 would work for the hazards lights.
I also contacted Admore Lighting but apparently they do not realized that this relay works for the turn signals. They say it is design for GL 2001 and later!
So here is my questions:
Are the relays for the turn signals and the hazards light the same? Could they be swapped location?
If that's the case then one could assume that the solid state unit would also work... Wishful thinking
Just wondering if any one has already done it?
I contacted Gary at Cycle Max Who could not answer if the relay SCMGL88T1 would work for the hazards lights.
I also contacted Admore Lighting but apparently they do not realized that this relay works for the turn signals. They say it is design for GL 2001 and later!
So here is my questions:
Are the relays for the turn signals and the hazards light the same? Could they be swapped location?
If that's the case then one could assume that the solid state unit would also work... Wishful thinking

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Re: turn signal blub
I just got mine in, and on a hunch, I pulled both and put the unit in for the hazards, and yes, it'll work fine for them. So 2 units are needed for going full LED. 2nd one is on the way. (Yeah, in retrospect, should have just ordered 2 in the first damn place)
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