Progressive Suspension 416 Shock


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Progressive Suspension 416 Shock

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IF.. you are dealing with rebuilding a Progressive Suspension 416 shock, the Progressive
Suspension 00-1172 (HD) spring set, are the replacement springs to use for that shock. pc :roll:


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pocketchange wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:28 pm IF.. you are dealing with rebuilding a Progressive Suspension 416 shock, the Progressive
Suspension 00-1172 (HD) spring set, are the replacement springs to use for that shock. pc :roll:
This is for what bike??
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Thru the GL1500 and maybe even the GL1800.. (i don't know, since my interest is the GL1500.) pc
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There are many different versions of the 416 shock, with different ratings and springs in them.
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I hope IF the decision to go to the 416 series shock is made, the correct 416 is used.
The 416's are designed and look identical to the best of my knowledge.
There are 2 things (possibly a third,) that make them different.
Length, spring capacity, and the 3rd (which is above my pay scale) could be the internal valving (?)
All of the parts for the 416 are available for rebuilding (seals, o-rings, boots, bushings and springs.)
The HD shock version for the Goldwing has (this is my understanding up to this point in time) the 00-1172 spring set.
Which is suggested to be installed if you are over 200 lbs., or ride 2 up/tow.
Please add to this, if you care to contribute...
Given time, these shocks can be rebuilt or if you have the $'s, new shocks are available.
Progressive Suspension discontinued the 416, no longer service, supply parts and rarely help with customer service. pc
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What is the proper length of the 416 shock for a GL1500? I know Progressive has at two different, according to Progressive, shock length that fit the Wing and the Cade. One at 14" for all 1500 wings. The other is a 1/4" longer for the Suzuki Cavalcade. There are different air hose adapters as well. I know this because when I put new shocks on our Cade, there was two different shocks to pick from. I did not know which one to order. I called Progressive to figure out what to buy. I got a lot of information from them.
I have ordered a few Shocks, Fork Springs and even their Emulator Valve for different bikes. They have been very helpful when I call. I hope they have not changed that service.
Take care.
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Progressive Suspension 416 Shock 1633gla (13.42 inches)
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pocketchange,
Thank you. Progressive calls 13.42". 14 inches. So strange.
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pocketchange,
I forgot to ask you. What does "gla" stand for? Great Lateral Assent????
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I'm not up to speed on why Progressive Suspension put 416-1633gla PN on their GL1500 Goldwing shock.
Try directing the question to PS.
I'm curious why PS suggested adding the HD spring set to improve the shock and played the game of not giving the spring PN. Since there are 3 different spring's configurations available (none with the spec for the HD spring, I gave up and optioned for the 00-1172 PN cause it has the heaviest rating cause the #s for the HD spring are hidden somewhere and I don't have a clue where to look.
I'm (still) curious why PS (tech line) is less than positive with questions about part numbers.. pc
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I used the 00-1170 springs for the GL1100 12.5 in shock. Will the progressive GL1500 shock FIT on the GL1100? It is almost an inch longer for sure... which changes the bike geometry slightly, not sure if that is a big dealio or not.
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Your chances off finding a set of Progressive shocks to fit the 1500 are very slim to none. New or used.
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4given wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:50 am Your chances off finding a set of Progressive shocks to fit the 1500 are very slim to none. New or used.
Just love the encouragement around this place. My Granny used to say, "If you have nothing good or nice to say, say nothing at all" Good Advice.
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Just love the encouragement around this place. My Granny used to say, "If you have nothing good or nice to say, say nothing at all" Good Advice.
I thought that I WAS giving good advice. I have been looking for 1633s for over a year, used or new, so if you find any, I would definitely be interested if they have more than one pair. “ good” or “ nice” isn’t always the most help. No Ill intentions meant.
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Clearly your research skills need some work. There ARE Harley shocks that WILL WORK for the GL1500 https://www.directcycleparts.com/appare ... cAQAvD_BwE

Progressive 416-1642A are roughly .4" shorter but will do the trick.......And they also will fit the GL1100/1200 IF you REALLY want to pay $450.
Also Check THIS OUT:
Here are some Harley part numbers to guide your search.
54532-85
54536-02A
54540-93
54565-09 FLH FLHT FLHR FLHTI 13" (G5E3-00)
54565-97 (A) FLH 13"
54565-97 (B)
54565-97 (C)
54631-02B Road king FLHRS or FLHX or FLTRX 12" shock pair "low profile"
54632-98 bagger 12" or 12.5
54635-09 12"
54661-02A Road King FLHR Street Glide 12" single shock "lowered"
54662-09 street glide 11.5"

NOW THAT is what I call HELP my good man.
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LittleGoldy wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:48 am Clearly your research skills need some work. There ARE Harley shocks that WILL WORK for the GL1500 https://www.directcycleparts.com/appare ... cAQAvD_BwE

Progressive 416-1642A are roughly .4" shorter but will do the trick.......And they also will fit the GL1100/1200 IF you REALLY want to pay $450.
Notice the "click here to view this item on our new website" link on the page you linked to above. When you do so, you'll see that the shock listed is no longer available.

Progressive stopped manufacturing ALL 416 series shocks, as well as the replacement parts to fix them. That includes the 416-1642A shock meant for Harleys. Any "new" 416 shocks you find for sale are leftover NOS.
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LittleGoldy wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:48 am Clearly your research skills need some work. There ARE Harley shocks that WILL WORK for the GL1500 https://www.directcycleparts.com/appare ... cAQAvD_BwE

Progressive 416-1642A are roughly .4" shorter but will do the trick.......And they also will fit the GL1100/1200 IF you REALLY want to pay $450.
Also Check THIS OUT:
Here are some Harley part numbers to guide your search.
54532-85
54536-02A
54540-93
54565-09 FLH FLHT FLHR FLHTI 13" (G5E3-00)
54565-97 (A) FLH 13"
54565-97 (B)
54565-97 (C)
54631-02B Road king FLHRS or FLHX or FLTRX 12" shock pair "low profile"
54632-98 bagger 12" or 12.5
54635-09 12"
54661-02A Road King FLHR Street Glide 12" single shock "lowered"
54662-09 street glide 11.5"

NOW THAT is what I call HELP my good man.
You are welcome to try any of the shocks listed above on your Gl1500. Let me know how they work out. Ask me how I know they won’t fit. Just trying to save you some time and money
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WingAdmin wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:10 am
Notice the "click here to view this item on our new website" link on the page you linked to above. When you do so, you'll see that the shock listed is no longer available.

Progressive stopped manufacturing ALL 416 series shocks, as well as the replacement parts to fix them. That includes the 416-1642A shock meant for Harleys. Any "new" 416 shocks you find for sale are leftover NOS.
I did hear the 416 Line was being discontinued in 2019, however, thought it was only the Gold Wing ones, not the entire line.
I have springs and seals to fix the GL1100 shocks. Progressive Spring 00-1170, New Seals 30-5041 and ya gotta get inventive to find the bump stop but Energy Suspension has them P/N 98101 will work. Just finished 2 sets of shocks and have 2 more kit sets to rebuild more.

And I just checked, the parts are still available IF one has the shocks to rebuild. In addition, the Harley Shock I listed is still available from that source. Maybe back stock.

Most of the folks around here are helpful. And I find that encouraging to those of us resurrecting long dead patients. I feel like Dr. Frankenstein at times........... "It's ALIVEEEEE" :D


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