Going Wireless


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inanyminet
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Going Wireless

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I have a 1995 GL1500 that I want to go Wireless Bluetooth Conversion of my system. Thinking about a Sena conversion freewire, but they have 3 models, which one would be good for a casual rider? Most of the time I ride single. I use a half helmet in the summer and a open face helmet when it gets colder. Is there a wireless headset that I could switch from one helmet to the other? Are there other ways to convert my system other than Sena?


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There are some headsets that you can buy with separate mounts and allow you to move from one helmet to another.

What do you want the headset to do?

Most of the headsets also receive AM/FM and of course all do headset to headset intercom function as well as receive audio from a MP3 source (player or phone).

Do you need to hear another input such as a GPS?

Do you want to intercom to a large network of other riders? Do they have a particular favorite brand?

Is there any reason to connect to the Honda system at all?
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I would like to make the Goldwing system Bluetooth to listen to the radio, my XM radio which is switched to the radio and my CB over a Bluetooth headset. The Bluetooth headset should be multi function and able to connect to a few other riders as well. I was looking at the Sena Freewire but they also had 2 other models along with it. Which would be best to use? Are there other products out there on the market to turn the Goldwing system into a Bluetooth capable system?
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I am only aware of two Sena Freewires. The black/orange is for Harley and the black/red is for the Goldwing five-pin helmet connector. The Sena doesn't have AM/FM but connects to the onboard radio system via the Freewire interface. It also will connect to several other riders within about a one mile distance. With two of the Senas you can use the intercom feature to communicate with your passenger as well. The other unit I started with was the Cardo Scala Rider which has six preset (your choice) FM radio stations and the intercom feature with connect with several other riders the same as the Sena. However the Cardo Scala Rider doesn't have the connectivity to the onboard system so you can't use the CB radio unit, which was why I changed to the Sena because all the riders I am with want to use CB and no desire to upgrade to bluetooth.
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As Charlie1Horse has said, once you say you want to use the Honda CB, your options shrink. In addition to the SENA Freewire, I believe J&M offers a Bluetooth dongle. In either case, you match the Bluetooth dongle to the same brand headset. Most headsets will Bluetooth to other brand headsets but the Freewire is not so accommodating. Very few choices for CB.

Here's the J&M dongle: https://jmcorp.com/JM-BluHub%C2%AE-Dual ... _p_36.html

The Freewire plugs into the Honda connection and a power point and has an option for another audio source and then Bluetooth to the headset.

The SENA SR10 would plug into a SIRIUS, handheld CB, etc. and Bluetooth to the headset. It does not connect to the Honda system.

So this mount keeps the regular wired cable to the Honda connection but adds Bluetooth:
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sen ... id=1565838

At that point it becomes a question of what and how many of your fellow riders are using. The SENA will connect to a couple other riders fairly well but if you have a larger group, it would be better to use the SENA mesh which means all users on SENA. The more expensive SENA headsets increase the number of users you can connect to, if you want a built in AM/FM, if you want some level of voice command, etc.

If you search this forum for Bluetooth or SENA you will find several experiences and results.
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Thank you both much. I was looking at the sena firewire and sena 20s headset. Will see what other post say on the subject. Thank you again
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I bought the Sena FreeWire for Goldwing. I already had a pair of Sena SMH5's, but they are one function at a time, meaning, if I'm talking to another rider with it, I have no on-board audio. As I usually ride alone, I seem to have have full on-board audio (though I'm not sure about CB transmit (not a lot of CB activity around here, that or the antenna isn't tuned properly ;) )). I may yet upgrade the headsets to a newer model.
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jbaviera wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:24 am (not a lot of CB activity around here, that or the antenna isn't tuned properly ;) )).
Just FYI, antenna fine tuning isn't really that important for receiving. If you have an antenna cut for a particular band, it will hear signals in that band if they are out there.
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Solo So Long wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:08 pm
jbaviera wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:24 am (not a lot of CB activity around here, that or the antenna isn't tuned properly ;) )).
Just FYI, antenna fine tuning isn't really that important for receiving. If you have an antenna cut for a particular band, it will hear signals in that band if they are out there.
Kind of thought as much, but like I said, not a lot of activity around to try it out. I'm certain the antenna has never been touched, as I installed a used CB on the bike.
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Has anyone tried the SENA FreeWire adapter with the GL1500? Also interested in using the CB and having Stereo Audio from the Radio via my Sena 20s.

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bwanna wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:23 pm Has anyone tried the SENA FreeWire adapter with the GL1500? Also interested in using the CB and having Stereo Audio from the Radio via my Sena 20s.

Thanks,
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Your system should be the same as mine. I have the Freewire plugged in to my 2015 five pin headset plug (same connection as the GL1500) and have the SRL (same as the 20s). I have the power plug for the Freewire on a switched source. I start the bike and then turn on the headset. All Honda functions work the same as if I use a wired headset. My passenger still uses the wired headset.

I have my iPhone also connected to the SRL via Bluetooth. Very important to connect the Freewire as the first phone and the phone as the second phone. Once in a while, the headset does not pair with both devices so I shut it off and turn it back on again.

I have used the intercom feature of the headset (bike to bike) a few times but not the mesh group function yet. Works fine so far.

My Garmin GPS has Bluetooth and a headphone jack. SENA will accept the GPS audio either as a hardwire to the Freewire aux input jack or via Bluetooth to the SRL headset. I tried both methods neither really got me excited though I didn't try very hard to improve the audio. I already owned one of the GPS input devices sold on this site so I used that and was most pleased with this setup. /Store/Goldwing ... -Input.asp The GPS input device is no longer made but can be found. It injects the audio on the Honda intercom side which makes it easy to control with the factory Honda switches.
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Andy Cote wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:28 pm
My Garmin GPS has Bluetooth and a headphone jack. SENA will accept the GPS audio either as a hardwire to the Freewire aux input jack or via Bluetooth to the SRL headset. I tried both methods neither really got me excited though I didn't try very hard to improve the audio. I already owned one of the GPS input devices sold on this site so I used that and was most pleased with this setup. /Store/Goldwing ... -Input.asp The GPS input device is no longer made but can be found. It injects the audio on the Honda intercom side which makes it easy to control with the factory Honda switches.
that is what I ended up with after wasting 100s of $$$ on other fancy devices.
My 1800 has a Garmin 2797 which is able to connect direct to a cellphone, BUT, and it is really bad BUT.
The Garmin takes over the Microphone role, and when you talk, its' internal mic is used instead of the headset.

I disabled the Garmin's Bluetooth after that, and stayed with the Aux In device mentioned here.
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Most high end helmet communicators can now connect. As for the CB usage, Honda did this in years gone by for its Cadillac, and there are some using it for interbike communications. If you are considering it for a safety aspect such as riding in the way back, northern Canada and other areas where cell phone recption is spotty at best, I would recommend having a Garmin Explorer as your safety unit. Portable and can be used wherever.


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