Fader Control Replacement


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Fader Control Replacement

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Talking about a '95 Aspencade here!

I have the current fader that has 12 wires and while taking off the cover I broke the potentiometer, I know big surprise.

Any reason I can't just put a regular 10k potentiometer in its place?

If I can do it, does anyone have the wiring diagram for it?
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If it is the one made by Add-On, you can buy the whole assembly including the wiring harness from Cyclemax of Ohio for under $30.
https://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl1500 ... der/240105
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I saw that one, I rarely listen to the radio, wearing a full face helmet I can't hear it anyway.

I was hoping I could just solder a new potentiometer in place of the old one.
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Anything is possible. It all depends on your abilities and knowledge of the circuit. And, if the original is not too damaged, it is possible to reuse it. But, it would be easier to just replace it.
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10k potentiometer won't work, you are fading 4ohm speakers. The original potentiometer is going to be low ohms, most likely a wire-wound model.
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That sucks, I guess I won't worry about it then.
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Measure the resistance of the original one (measure the two outside terminals). Then you can replace it with one with the same resistance. Make sure it is AUDIO TAPER, not linear taper.
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Wouldn't the audio tapers be more for the volume, bass, and treble control? Linear taper sounds like it would be ideal for fading from front to rear and balance right to left.
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Fiberthree wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:58 pm Wouldn't the audio tapers be more for the volume, bass, and treble control? Linear taper sounds like it would be ideal for fading from front to rear and balance right to left.
No. Audio power is logarithmic, and requires logarithmic (audio) taper potentiometers. Using a linear taper pot will make it work fine when set all the way to the front, or all the way to the back, and you will end up with almost zero volume out of either front or rear when set anywhere in between.
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Thank you for the explanation.
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The fader is broke on my bike as well, is there a way to wire them directly with no fader? Will they work? Guess I could buy a new fader harness, just trying to save the $30 if I can wire directly as I'd want all 4 speakers playing at once anyways. Thank you.
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Unless you are well versed in audio electronics, it is ill advised to do that. You could damage the audio final amplifiers in the radio. I think the best course of action is to buy a new harness and replace it.
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Thanks, that's what I'm going to do.


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