Tire inflators/compressors and max Amp draw


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Tire inflators/compressors and max Amp draw

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Hey all,

I'm looking to add a portable tire inflator/compressor to my tool kit. Most of the units marketed to motorcycle riders are either very expensive (Bestrest Cyclepump) or of really dubious quality (Slime pumps). Looking at portable compressors that are used more by the 4x4 community (such as Viair compressors), the performance and reliability is much improved, but maximum current draw is often well over 20 amps.

Any issues with running a compressor with a peak draw of say, 25 amps?

I do have an aftermarket upgraded alternator (not sure if Compufire or LActrical off the top of my head). I'd also run dedicated wires to the battery with SAE terminals, probably 10 or 12ga wire.

And before anyone points it out, yes, I am aware that the bike has an on-board compressor. I don't want to rely on a 25 year old undersized compressor that, if it fails, will cost an arm and a leg to replace. I use the on-board to adjust the suspension as required and that's all.

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In my opinion, the Slime compressors and similar are more that adequate for the task. They are compact and usually draw less than 15 amps.

I have two inexpensive compressors I bought from Walmart several years ago. They were in a plastic case. I removed them from the case and put them small digital camera bags. I got the idea from a Motorcycle Consumer News article in October of 2002. They have both been used at least twice and are still in excellent condition today.

And you are correct, the compressor on the GL1500 is best suited for suspension adjustments. The motorcycle electrical system and the compressors not suited for adding air to tires, especially flat tires.
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I carry this one with me. Fills tires fast and is not that big.

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Thank you both for the input.

I've been doing some more research and I've decided to go with a 10-15 amp unit like a Slime or the one gford posted, rather than a larger compressor. Now the only question is whether I go cheap and hope that it doesn't crap out when I need it, or pry open my wallet to get a quality unit with a lifetime warranty, like a CyclePump...
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I've had cheap ones and good ones, and taken both kinds apart. The only real difference is the cheap ones are not meant to last. Plain bushings instead of bearings, small or no cooling fans, etc. If you plan to use it often like for camping or other air needs get a good one. If it's just for emergency use, a cheap one is fine. It won't go bad riding around in your saddlebag until the rubber parts break down after years. Maybe spin it over once a year or so to keep the grease alive.
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Another option. If all you want is an emergency inflation, you can get the CO2 cartridge kits.
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Rambozo wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:18 pm <...>It won't go bad riding around in your saddlebag until the rubber parts break down after years. Maybe spin it over once a year or so to keep the grease alive.
My Slime pump is 10+ years only, and only used on occasion. The rubber parts started to break down, as you mentioned.

I wrote to Slime, explained the situation, and was willing to pay a nominal amount for replacements. Instead they mailed to me for free a complete set of accessories. :D
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If it's just for emergency use, get it with battery clamps, and just clamp it right to the battery terminals. You don't have to worry about fuse ratings of accessory circuits or anything like that, then.
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You have three worries with a high-amp load on a motorcycle.

First, the battery. Can it handle the load, for long enough to do the job? Even if the motor is running and charging the battery, this is still a consideration.

Second, the wiring capacity. If you're doing a direct connection, this isn't a factor, but if you use existing wires, you can easily over load and get a fire. They use the cheapest, thinnest wire they can when building a motorcycle.

Third, the rest of the electrical system. What happens is you put that much load on the battery at the heart of everything?

Myself, I wouldn't put on a big compressor.
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Is that why the factory supplied a hose in tbe right side bag and has the screw on chuck and is setup to work in the park ign switch position??
MikeB wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 3:38 pm In my opinion, the Slime compressors and similar are more that adequate for the task. They are compact and usually draw less than 15 amps.

I have two inexpensive compressors I bought from Walmart several years ago. They were in a plastic case. I removed them from the case and put them small digital camera bags. I got the idea from a Motorcycle Consumer News article in October of 2002. They have both been used at least twice and are still in excellent condition today.

And you are correct, the compressor on the GL1500 is best suited for suspension adjustments. The motorcycle electrical system and the compressors not suited for adding air to tires, especially flat tires.
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DaRamblerman wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 7:36 am Is that why the factory supplied a hose in tbe right side bag and has the screw on chuck and is setup to work in the park ign switch position??
Why Honda included the hose is not for me to ascertain. But I do know that the suspension needs the air compressor to adjust the suspension. Other than that, I'd steer away from trying to use the compressor for anything else.

Why? Because failure of the compressor would cost you big bucks if you could even find one. They are no longer made. How would you adjust the suspension if the high dollar Honda compressor failed?

For filling tires, an aftermarket portable compressor is very affordable and compact.
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MikeB wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:22 am
DaRamblerman wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 7:36 am Is that why the factory supplied a hose in tbe right side bag and has the screw on chuck and is setup to work in the park ign switch position??
Why Honda included the hose is not for me to ascertain. But I do know that the suspension needs the air compressor to adjust the suspension. Other than that, I'd steer away from trying to use the compressor for anything else.

Why? Because failure of the compressor would cost you big bucks if you could even find one. They are no longer made. How would you adjust the suspension if the high dollar Honda compressor failed?

For filling tires, an aftermarket portable compressor is very affordable and compact.
When the bike came out, the system worked as needed to add air to a tire. It took a little time, but worked. If the pump quit, just get a replacement.

But now, I agree, I would not use the on board pump to fill tires because of the parts issue if the pump goes down. It goes through some work to fill a tire. A portable compressor is the way to go. Just use the on board pump for suspension adjustments.
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I have had an inflator with batteries for 3 years, it charges via USB, inflates up to 100 pounds, has a flashlight, an LCD screen to adjust the inflation levels and does not consume more than 1 amp when charging. All this without counting that I can inflate between 5 and 8 tires with a single battery charge.
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Except Honda designed it to inflate your tires. Read the owners manual.
MikeB wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:22 am
DaRamblerman wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 7:36 am Is that why the factory supplied a hose in tbe right side bag and has the screw on chuck and is setup to work in the park ign switch position??
Why Honda included the hose is not for me to ascertain. But I do know that the suspension needs the air compressor to adjust the suspension. Other than that, I'd steer away from trying to use the compressor for anything else.

Why? Because failure of the compressor would cost you big bucks if you could even find one. They are no longer made. How would you adjust the suspension if the high dollar Honda compressor failed?

For filling tires, an aftermarket portable compressor is very affordable and compact.
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DaRamblerman wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 6:41 pm Except Honda designed it to inflate your tires. Read the owners manual.
MikeB wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:22 am
DaRamblerman wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 7:36 am Is that why the factory supplied a hose in tbe right side bag and has the screw on chuck and is setup to work in the park ign switch position??
Why Honda included the hose is not for me to ascertain. But I do know that the suspension needs the air compressor to adjust the suspension. Other than that, I'd steer away from trying to use the compressor for anything else.

Why? Because failure of the compressor would cost you big bucks if you could even find one. They are no longer made. How would you adjust the suspension if the high dollar Honda compressor failed?

For filling tires, an aftermarket portable compressor is very affordable and compact.
Tell us what you see in the owner's manual. What does it say about duty cycle of the pump? How long will it take to inflate a tire?
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MikeB wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 7:09 pm
DaRamblerman wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 6:41 pm Except Honda designed it to inflate your tires. Read the owners manual.
MikeB wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:22 am
Why Honda included the hose is not for me to ascertain. But I do know that the suspension needs the air compressor to adjust the suspension. Other than that, I'd steer away from trying to use the compressor for anything else.

Why? Because failure of the compressor would cost you big bucks if you could even find one. They are no longer made. How would you adjust the suspension if the high dollar Honda compressor failed?

For filling tires, an aftermarket portable compressor is very affordable and compact.
Tell us what you see in the owner's manual. What does it say about duty cycle of the pump? How long will it take to inflate a tire?
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DaRamblerman wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 7:49 pm Screenshot_20240509_194527_Adobe Acrobat.jpg
MikeB wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 7:09 pm
DaRamblerman wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 6:41 pm Except Honda designed it to inflate your tires. Read the owners manual.
Tell us what you see in the owner's manual. What does it say about duty cycle of the pump? How long will it take to inflate a tire?
GL1200?? This entire post is concerning the GL1500. This posting title is Forum GL1500 Information & Questions.

The 1200 and 1500 are different animals. But the operation duration of the pump is the same time length. No more than five minutes. You can't possible inflate a tire in the length of time.
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GL 1500 happy?


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DaRamblerman wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:28 pm GL 1500 happy?Screenshot_20240509_212132_Adobe Acrobat.jpg
Should I be happy? I was happy before. Nothing has changed.

Anyone is more than welcome to use the on-board compressor in any way they wish. People just need to know that the pump and virtually all the individual parts are no longer available. Word to the wise, use it or abuse it at your won risk.
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DaRamblerman wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 6:41 pm Except Honda designed it to inflate your tires. Read the owners manual.
MikeB wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:22 am
DaRamblerman wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 7:36 am Is that why the factory supplied a hose in tbe right side bag and has the screw on chuck and is setup to work in the park ign switch position??
Why Honda included the hose is not for me to ascertain. But I do know that the suspension needs the air compressor to adjust the suspension. Other than that, I'd steer away from trying to use the compressor for anything else.

Why? Because failure of the compressor would cost you big bucks if you could even find one. They are no longer made. How would you adjust the suspension if the high dollar Honda compressor failed?

For filling tires, an aftermarket portable compressor is very affordable and compact.
I see nothing in either owners manual that say the onboard compressor was made to inflate a tire.
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I don't understand the focus of the discussion, buy a portable one like the one in the photo and that's it, you don't have to use the motorcycle battery.
I've had it for 3 years, it charges via USB, inflates up to 100 pounds, has a flashlight, an LCD screen to adjust inflation levels, and does not consume more than 1 amp when charging. All this without taking into account that I can inflate between 5 and 8 tires with a single battery charge.
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4given wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 6:04 am
DaRamblerman wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 6:41 pm Except Honda designed it to inflate your tires. Read the owners manual.
MikeB wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:22 am
Why Honda included the hose is not for me to ascertain. But I do know that the suspension needs the air compressor to adjust the suspension. Other than that, I'd steer away from trying to use the compressor for anything else.

Why? Because failure of the compressor would cost you big bucks if you could even find one. They are no longer made. How would you adjust the suspension if the high dollar Honda compressor failed?

For filling tires, an aftermarket portable compressor is very affordable and compact.
I see nothing in either owners manual that say the onboard compressor was made to inflate a tire.
Sure it does. Look 3 posts up. You use the outlet button with the hose attached to the outlet in the saddle bag to inflate tires. Or Tyres at the manual states.


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