Tires and wheels interchangability


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Ringoloid
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Tires and wheels interchangability

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Hello Folks!
New to the sight and thought I'd dive right in.
Been riding for oh, about 40 years+ and recently picked up my second ever Goldwing, a 1989 GL1500 and the first I'm actually riding. The first was a '75 decades ago that I ended up selling to my buddy who was helping to rebuild it.
Back to now, I have an opportunity to pick up front and rear wheels with fairly fresh Dunlop Elite 4 tires mounted. The problem is they are simply listed as 'for '88-2000 GL1500 Goldwing.'
So my technical question is: Is there any reason these may NOT fit my 1989 GL1500. I ask because I periodically run across posting where some idiosyncrasies pop up between specific model years and I don't want to shell out needed funds for what may end up as very large paper weights...

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Well apparently I was wrong, '90-'00 are the same, '88 and '89 rears (and maybe fronts) have some differences.
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Re: Tires and wheels interchangability

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Actually, the '88 and '89 wheels were a little different than the '90 through the '00.
The rear wheels in particular are not directly interchangeable between the earlier and later models.
The rear wheel has a 6 pin drive coupler and the '90 through '00 had a 5 pin drive coupler.
The '88 and '89 rear wheels also have a different size brake rotor.
The '88 and '89 front wheels MAY work but I can not say for sure.
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Well I stand corrected then, I did not know that about the '88 and '89 models.
I know there were a few other oddities with those 2 years as well, but did not know the rims were one of them.
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MikeB wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:22 pm Actually, the '88 and '89 wheels were a little different than the '90 through the '00.
The rear wheels in particular are not directly interchangeable between the earlier and later models.
The rear wheel has a 6 pin drive coupler and the '90 through '00 had a 5 pin drive coupler.
The '88 and '89 rear wheels also have a different size brake rotor.
The '88 and '89 front wheels MAY work but I can not say for sure.
If you use everything "downstream" of the final drive, you should be able to interchange them. As described, the coupler between the final drive and the wheel hub changes.

To that end, you should check your current wheel because on a 20-30 year old bike, it's possible that someone has made a change somewhere through out it's life.

Front wheels should work fine.

Tires are all the same size so even if you end up with different wheels, the tires can be swapped out.

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blupupher wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:14 pm Well I stand corrected then, I did not know that about the '88 and '89 models.
I know there were a few other oddities with those 2 years as well, but did not know the rims were one of them.
Maintenance procedures are a little different, too. The early model drive pins get moly paste, the later ones don't.
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Ringoloid wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:59 pm Back to now, I have an opportunity to pick up front and rear wheels with fairly fresh Dunlop Elite 4 tires mounted.
The big question is HOW MUCH? A new set of E4s runs in the $400 range, plus mounting and balancing (if you don't have the tools).

If the tires are fresh enough (check dates), have enough tread, and are cheap enough, they might be worth buying even if the wheels don't fit -- they can be swapped to your wheels easily enough.
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Thank you, blupupher, MikeB and Solo So Long, that is exactly the type of info I was looking for.
I'm just going to order tires themselves and avoid this package deal. This would have been my first introduction to the Elite 4's, and usually I prefer intros to be with fresh product to form a fuller opinion.
Besides, the seller has yet to respond to my inquiries and when online tire sellers act that way I am *ahem* 'biased' against them and they can 'ply' their wares elsewhere. It doesn't matter how good the deal is for wheels with tires already on them, $250, if I can't directly swap them out it just leads to 'mounting' frustration.
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Re: Tires and wheels interchangability

Post by Solo So Long »

Mounting isn't really a problem. Harbor Freight has a tire machine with motorcycle adapter at a good price (and Fathers' Day specials), likewise balancer. You can get away from HF for about $125 and be all set up.

Or you can do what I did and start with HF, but watch for good used commercial-grade equipment. I have a turntable car tire machine with motorcycle adapters, a digital tire balancer with motorcycle adapter, and just got a Snap-On digital motorcycle wheel balancer, all bought used. I figure I have spent less than $1000. For me, this makes sense because I also have various other rolling stock to swap tires on. Buying tires online then doing my own M&B has paid off the investment.


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