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i have a 1990 gl1500 i replaced the battery and alternator and just replaced the pulse generator i can go about 60 miles at 65mph and the battery goes dead i've checked to see if it was recharging the battery and it was not last year we went on a 4000 mile road trip with no problems this year nothing but problems anyone have any ideal whats going on


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Sounds like the alternator is not working. It should be maintaining battery voltage as you ride.
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this is the second alternator i've put on both alternators have done the same thing i've fully charged battery and checked to see if it was charging everything checked out ok then on the ride battery would go dead engine even sounded like it was going to flood out or coils where weak not firing on all cyclinders
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rb20035 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:09 pm ... checked to see if it was charging everything checked out ok ...
I understand that you have replaced the battery and you expect it to work but, it could still be bad or the installation was incorrect. A broken or intermittent wire at the connector that plugs into the alternator could be causing your issue.

What was the battery voltage reading at the battery terminals before you started the bike?
What was the barter voltage reading after the bike was started and idling, and then again at about 1500 RPM?

Battery voltage should be approximately 13 volts at idle. If your battery voltage did not measure between least 13.5 and 14 volts at 1500 RPM, the alternator is not charging.
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before i started motor at the battery it was at 11.5 volts then after it started it was at 13.7 volts
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rb20035 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:12 pm before i started motor at the battery it was at 11.5 volts then after it started it was at 13.7 volts
What was the battery voltage when when you were having the problem? Did you check the alternator output when you are having that problem?
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what can cause the alternator to go out again
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Welcome to the forum. Where are you from?

What brand battery? Alternator?
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rb20035 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:32 pm what can cause the alternator to go out again
The alternator has not necessarily gone bad. The connector that plugs into the back of the alternator might have come out. Or the wire in that connector might have come disconnected.
Check your connectors to make sure everything is secure.
Initially you said that the battery went dead. Was the battery actually dead and what was the voltage?
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the last alternator i but in was a LR140-708 Hitachi and the battery is a Everstart ES50N18LA3 when battery went dead it was at 8-9 volts
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i'm from frankfort indiana area
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Since the battery has been discharged that much it needs to be thoroughly charged or it will be damaged. A really slow charge of maybe 1 amp for 5-6 hours up to overnight or 2 amps for half that time and float charger would be the best as it can be hooked up indefinitely without any damage to the battery. After it's charged it should test at 12.7 volts or higher, then let it sit for a day or at least overnight and recheck the standing voltage and it should be a minimum of 12.6 volts. If it's not you either have a drain on the battery or the battery is defective. If you can rig up a volt meter to use while riding you can keep an eye on the charging ability of the alternator, voltage should stay above 13 but might fall a little under that at a stop with the brake lights on. Having said all that the comments on checking all of the battery/charging system connections are definitely in line, the best system in the world won't keep the battery up if it's only partially able to do it's job.
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i'm looking at a wiring diagram of charging system for it can the problem be a bad relay it show it in section 17-4 of the service manual number 6 relay that may cause the alternator to go out
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Check main 55A dogbone fuse, charging current from the alternator has to pass thru that fuse to reach the battery. Fuse may be old and corroded.
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sorry everyone went out of town for a couple days got back on the 5th installed a new alternator and relay and then me and the wife went on another bike ride went chattanooga Tn then up to Chicago Ill and back home i would say we went around a thousand miles no problems i think my problems with it not recharging was reley in the 35 dollar relay in charging system
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rb20035 wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:59 pm sorry everyone went out of town for a couple days got back on the 5th installed a new alternator and relay and then me and the wife went on another bike ride went chattanooga Tn then up to Chicago Ill and back home i would say we went around a thousand miles no problems i think my problems with it not recharging was reley in the 35 dollar relay in charging system
If you paid $35 for that relay (Relay 6) which controls the alternator field coil (among other things), then you got ripped off: G8MS-H30 Relay


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