Pegasus: TimingBelts


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And so begins my journey to change the timing belt. I am following the instructions provided here to the tee. I definitely don't want to mess this up lol
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Forgot to add I am changing the turning lights to led fog lights as well.
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The timing belts really aren't hard to do just important to do correctly. If you go by the steps in the diy it will work out fine. Since I saw that Wingadmin had to advise another poster about a noise issue be sure to go easy on how tight you get the belts, its the Goldilocks thing, has to be pretty close to right or it's too loose and could be a problem or too tight and will make noise and may end up being a wear problem.
I like the idea of led fog lights also. Will you be running them all the time or just with a switch?
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I would prefer just to have them on when driving. More lights the better. The kit I bought does not connect to the stock wire connection. How would I wire it so it stays on?
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Are you going to mount the lights in the turn light housing or mount them seperately? Since the turn lights are only on with the turn signals you would have to do away with the turn light relay to run the leds all the time.
Myself, I have access to plenty of wire connectors from the little scooters from China and so forth that use the very same parts as Honda does so I would just cut off the non fitting connectors and use some that will hook up "properly" or you could cut them both off and just use crimp on bullet connectors from the parts house.
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I might try just crimping it. I am to the timing belt and man is it dusty!
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I am going to clean this out tomorrow it has funky burnt smell. You can see just how much brown dust is in it.
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Ok I need yalls opinion. Seeing how much brown dust is in the timing belt area, should I clean all that off with brake cleaner like what was suggested for the whole area? Or should I just clean off what was mentioned in the instructions. I know my timing belt gears are way dirtier than all the other ones I have been researching. My guess is due to the age of the belt? Let me know what you think, I want to get this back together tomorrow. I had dreams about this damn belt last night haha.
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Unless the dust is really thick it is not going to be a functional problem but just a personal preference one. Since it seems that it bothers you just wash it down with some brake cleaner and be done with that issue so it won't hold you up.
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Do you think all that dust from the old timing belt? The bike does have 134,000 miles on it and no recorded record of a timing belt change in the mechanic logs.
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Are you changing the Tensioner bearings I found a good article from another site that explains how and why.

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/threads/r ... 25.313641/

I did this and worked great. I did tighten a little to much and had to go back in and readjust tension on the belts. Make sure you recheck adjustments after you torque everything down. I think that's where I made my mistake. Tensioner must of moved a little during the torqueing prosses.
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Dust from a belt will likely be dark as the belt is and if the quantity of dust is large the belts would be badly worn so it's probably dirt. Doesn't really matter, replace the parts needed, clean the area and put it back on the road. Over 100k is pushing things, the local Honda tech said the engines he had seen that had the belts break or strip had about 125k on the original belts.
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I am haveing the hardest time with the tension on the belts. I really think it's the crappy walmart luggage scale I am using.
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I have never used a scale to check the tension of the belts myself. I just get all of the slack gathered by the tensioner and let the spring on the tensioner do the setting for me. Yes, it will not seem very tight but that is all that is needed, if you get it what you would think of as tight it will be too much and will likely make noise. It's ok to push the tensioner gently to make sure that friction hasn't kept it from moving but don't keep pushing as you tighten the bolt down, let the spring hold what it will.
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Well it turns fine, and I think I am really being paranoid about everything because of all the horror stories I have read. Think I will put the spark plugs back in get the basics on a test drive it weather pending.
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Update, I got all the bare bones back together. went for a test drive it was sputtering, so I came back and realized I placed the wrong connectors on the spark plugs. It runs like a champion now. Thank you Swagonmaster for all your help and patience. I just need to find a way to cut the relay out of the turning lights so I can convert to fog.
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Either put a jumper wire across the relay plug pins or get a crimp on wire splice connector to bridge the power and light wires.

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Disconnect the ground wire on the relay, it is a Normally Closed relay. The cornering lights will be on full-time.
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DenverWinger wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:31 pm Disconnect the ground wire on the relay, it is a Normally Closed relay. The cornering lights will be on full-time.
That is what I did with mine. Found the relays by the lights, pulled the ground wire pin from the back of the connector. Doing it this way means I can always put it back the way it was if I want to.
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Looks great and runs great. Thank you all for your help, literally couldn't have done it with out this forum.
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What headlight conversion did you do? I really don't like my yellow headlight with my white lower lights...
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The LED Pathfinder, the before and after pic they advertise for me was true. It is that hig of a difference, Depending on the website, the kit I got was the head light the 2 side lights, and I added the rear license plate led. It made a huge improvement at night. Plus it looks really good over the yellow headlights. Well worth it in my opinion.
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If you just want white light a pair of 6K bright headlight bulbs will do but if power use is an issue then a pair of LED's would be in order. Be careful which LED bulbs you get though I understand that the heat sink on some are so large that modification of the fairing is required.
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Swagonmaster yes the path finder ones had a huge heat sink, getting the clip over the heat sink was the biggest challenge. After I got it over and set correctly I didnt have any issues.


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