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Does anyone know where to buy the screws and flat nuts that hold the windshield on the 1500?
I believe that the far left and far right are different from the three in the center.
A friend is having a heck of a time with his 99 1500. Several of those screws will not come out. His windshield is broken, but we can't remove it.
At this point, all we can think of is to cut the old windshield off, then cut the screws out.
But before we try this, we need to have a set of new screws on hand.
Thanks guys.
P.S. How do we get inside to remove the old nuts and install new ones?
Thanks again.


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any Honda dealer can do it, but this place is cheaper


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offcenter wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:56 pm Does anyone know where to buy the screws and flat nuts that hold the windshield on the 1500?
I believe that the far left and far right are different from the three in the center.
A friend is having a heck of a time with his 99 1500. Several of those screws will not come out. His windshield is broken, but we can't remove it.
At this point, all we can think of is to cut the old windshield off, then cut the screws out.
But before we try this, we need to have a set of new screws on hand.
Thanks guys.
P.S. How do we get inside to remove the old nuts and install new ones?
Thanks again.
Are the screws frozen to the nut plates or are they just tight?
Tight screws can usually be removed by using a hand impact driver with a #3 Phillips bit.
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John, thank you so much. I passed that info on to my friend.
MikeB, those screws are so tight that we were afraid we'd break
the fairing using the impact driver. Someone WAY overtightened them.

So, how do we remove the captive nuts inside the fairing?
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Let me clarify,
How do I get old captive nuts out of the slots in the fairing after I cut the screws off of them?
Do I have to remove the dashboard?
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Yes, those screws are often in way too tight. Yes, replacing those nuts requires a bunch of disassembly. Try the impact driver before going with the nuclear option. And you want the hand impact driver that you strike with a hammer; not the air operated tool.
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We tried the impact driver that you hit. Nothing. Those screws won't budge.
On my own 1500, they came out easily. In fact I've had them out several times
since I bought the bike.
But on my buddy's bike, they won't move.
He said he'd order new screws and nuts tonight.
When he gets them, we'll try it again by cutting out the old windshield first. (it's broken, so it won't matter if we destroy it)
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Andy Cote wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:55 am Yes, replacing those nuts requires a bunch of disassembly.
Andy, does this mean that "Yes, I do have to remove the dashboard"
or
"No, I do NOT have to remove the dashboard'.
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Pretty sure you will need to pull the dash. I can't remember how they are actually attached to the fairing. They not like a common nut.
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Ok, thanks Andy.
I've had the dash out of mine, so doing his won't be any different.
I was hoping someone else had already been through this and could make my job a bit easier.
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When I replaced the windshield on mine, those screws were pretty tight also. I got mine loose by using a pair of vice grips on the screw head. I was able to get a good enough bite on it to break them loose. They made a pretty good pop sound when they broke loose.
If you are going to get some new screws anyway, you could use a die grinder or similar tool to grind a couple of flat sides on the screws to get a better grip on the screw with the vise grips.
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I'm not sure what nuts you're talking about...have a look at How to remove and replace your windshield. Those large screws seat down into the removeable channels, and the nutplates that they screw into are not supposed to be removed. They slide up and down to allow for adjustment.

I generally just unscrew the five screws (they are all the same), remove the channels, then pull the windshield free.

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WingAdmin wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:11 pm I'm not sure what nuts you're talking about...have a look at How to remove and replace your windshield. Those large screws seat down into the removeable channels, and the nutplates that they screw into are not supposed to be removed. They slide up and down to allow for adjustment.

I generally just unscrew the five screws (they are all the same), remove the channels, then pull the windshield free.

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Yes, the two outside screws have a different part# than the three inside ones. If I remember right, the outside screws are a little bit longer.
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WingAdmin wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:11 pm I'm not sure what nuts you're talking about...have a look at How to remove and replace your windshield. Those large screws seat down into the removeable channels, and the nutplates that they screw into are not supposed to be removed. They slide up and down to allow for adjustment.
I am talking about the nutplates that slide up and down. The damned screws are frozen into them.
Once we cut the windshield off, we'll have better access to the heads of the screws. They are so tight that we'll
probably end up cutting the heads off of the screws, leaving the threads of the screws stuck in the nutplates on at least three of them. Then we'll have to remove the old nutplates that have the screws stuck in them and install new nutplates. There HAS to be a way to remove the old nutplates from the fairing, and get the new nutplates in.

As it stands now, we are screwed, literally. The bike has a broken windshield, and we can't get the screws out!

With thirteen years of these bikes out there, SOMEONE must have had this problem before.
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offcenter wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:07 am
WingAdmin wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:11 pm I'm not sure what nuts you're talking about...have a look at How to remove and replace your windshield. Those large screws seat down into the removeable channels, and the nutplates that they screw into are not supposed to be removed. They slide up and down to allow for adjustment.
I am talking about the nutplates that slide up and down. The damned screws are frozen into them.
Once we cut the windshield off, we'll have better access to the heads of the screws. They are so tight that we'll
probably end up cutting the heads off of the screws, leaving the threads of the screws stuck in the nutplates on at least three of them. Then we'll have to remove the old nutplates that have the screws stuck in them and install new nutplates. There HAS to be a way to remove the old nutplates from the fairing, and get the new nutplates in.

As it stands now, we are screwed, literally. The bike has a broken windshield, and we can't get the screws out!

With thirteen years of these bikes out there, SOMEONE must have had this problem before.
I would use this - I have one of these and it works great:

https://www.amazon.com/Vessel-125943-P3 ... ref=sr_1_3

It's a JIS screwdriver, so it fits the screws perfectly, but it's also an impact driver - so you seat it into the screw, twist it hard, then strike the back end of it with a hammer as you twist it. That will almost always loosen seized screws, without stripping the heads out.
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This is the other one I use, for REALLY seized screws:

https://www.amazon.com/Vessel-NO-250001 ... ref=sr_1_2

Same idea, but as you strike the back of it, it actually translates that downward strike into a twisting motion, so it "impacts" the screw loose.
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WingAdmin wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:16 am This is the other one I use, for REALLY seized screws:

https://www.amazon.com/Vessel-NO-250001 ... ref=sr_1_2

Same idea, but as you strike the back of it, it actually translates that downward strike into a twisting motion, so it "impacts" the screw loose.
Wow! Those things have really increased in price. I bought one that looks just about identical to that from J.C. Whitney back about 1974 for about 6 or 7 dollars. It stills works great. They will break loose just about any screw with a couple of strikes on the end.
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Yes, we have an impact driver like that with a JIS bit. We have hit it so hard that we were afraid we'd break the fairing.
All it has done is mangle the heads of the screws!!
Three of those screws are now ruined and are way beyond removal with ANY screw driver!
So, back to the original question:
Once we cut the heads off of the screws with a Dremel tool, how to we get the sliding nutplates out of the fairing??
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The nutplates are secured in place with an E-clip (part 33 in the diagram) and a washer, to keep them from falling out. If I recall, the bracket they fasten to (part 8 in the diagram) is held in with more machine screws, but that's depending on my memory, so I'm not 100% sure on that.

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Over several decades, I had similar frozen nuts and screws on different vehicles. I bought a manual impact driver on my first screw issue. If it happens once, it will again.
After my first mangled screw head affair, then trying different manual impact tool use methods, I found and continue using the following method.
Once the impact screwdriver is squarely seated in a screw or on a frozen bolt, I press firmly onto the screw/nut, back twist the driver, then hit the driver quite sharply.
So far and luckily, only once did the impact bit break and the screw never properly removed. It took a die-grinder to remove the high-tempered screw head then later a liquid nut breaker and a vise-grip on what was left.

I posted this even after reading the screw heads were mangled beyond use so others can try this 'backup, press and whack' procedure on a manual nut/screw driver.
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WingAdmin wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:24 am The nutplates are secured in place with an E-clip (part 33 in the diagram) and a washer, to keep them from falling out. If I recall, the bracket they fasten to (part 8 in the diagram) is held in with more machine screws, but that's depending on my memory, so I'm not 100% sure on that.
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Ah HA! Now we're getting somewhere, Scott.
I didn't see the E clip on the diagram.
I assume that once I remove the E clip, the nutplate will fall out the back, behind the instrument cluster.
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offcenter wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:32 pm
WingAdmin wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:24 am The nutplates are secured in place with an E-clip (part 33 in the diagram) and a washer, to keep them from falling out. If I recall, the bracket they fasten to (part 8 in the diagram) is held in with more machine screws, but that's depending on my memory, so I'm not 100% sure on that.
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Ah HA! Now we're getting somewhere, Scott.
I didn't see the E clip on the diagram.
I assume that once I remove the E clip, the nutplate will fall out the back, behind the instrument cluster.
Again...I don't recall how it comes out, but that whole panel that they're mounted into can come out, so you can remove them on the bench and not have them fall anywhere.
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WingAdmin wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:36 am Again...I don't recall how it comes out, but that whole panel that they're mounted into can come out, so you can remove them on the bench and not have them fall anywhere.
Great! Thanks!
I just like to know what I'm up against before I go digging, especially when it's someone else's bike!
It will be a couple of weeks since he's away on a business trip.
But I'll let everyone know when we finally tackle the job.


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