Question about the Model difference of the 1999's


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Question about the Model difference of the 1999's

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I just bought a Bike that I was told was and That I believed to be a 50th anniversary SE. it has the anniversary Keys, emblems on the bike, all that good stuff. But I just ran the vin on some free check sites and they are saying it's an Aspencade. My Title just reads 1999 HOND MC CYL GLDWING <-- that is the DMV's doings there. I wonder though if somethings up.

I had looked up a load of bikes before, for sale you know while I was shopping, and some have the Vin listed in the ads for people to check up on. My Bike sale was fairly Local. around 25 min from my house, I didn't get a chance to run a vin or anything before I bought it ( Well I mean I didn't make the time to do it till afterwards ) The Guy seemed straight forward and a good guy.

anywho! The bikes got all the emblems and everything and now I am wondering if someone doctored this up to be a SE or what.. what I was getting at about the bikes I was looking at before I bought this one , I ran their vins and one of them was a 1999 50th anniversary GL1500SE and the vin came up with it as just that. Mine come up as :

1999 HONDA GL1500A (GOLD WING ASPENCADE)
Assembled:
HONDA DEVELOPMENT & MANUFACTURING OF AMERICA, LLC
Vehicle Age:
22 year(s)

The other guy that is selling his online as a 50th anniversary 1999 SE : his vin read out is this:

1999 HONDA GL1500SE (GOLD WING SE)
Assembled:
HONDA DEVELOPMENT & MANUFACTURING OF AMERICA, LLC
Vehicle Age:
22 year(s)
_________________________________________________________
I am wondering if it makes a difference and if that difference is so great that someone would spend all that extra dough to make it look like it's something it is not. I mean I dont see why anyone would do this just to yank my chain. anyone have this happen ?


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imneverlast wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:01 am I just bought a Bike that I was told was and That I believed to be a 50th anniversary SE. it has the anniversary Keys, emblems on the bike, all that good stuff. But I just ran the vin on some free check sites and they are saying it's an Aspencade. My Title just reads 1999 HOND MC CYL GLDWING <-- that is the DMV's doings there. I wonder though if somethings up.

I had looked up a load of bikes before, for sale you know while I was shopping, and some have the Vin listed in the ads for people to check up on. My Bike sale was fairly Local. around 25 min from my house, I didn't get a chance to run a vin or anything before I bought it ( Well I mean I didn't make the time to do it till afterwards ) The Guy seemed straight forward and a good guy.

anywho! The bikes got all the emblems and everything and now I am wondering if someone doctored this up to be a SE or what.. what I was getting at about the bikes I was looking at before I bought this one , I ran their vins and one of them was a 1999 50th anniversary GL1500SE and the vin came up with it as just that. Mine come up as :

1999 HONDA GL1500A (GOLD WING ASPENCADE)
Assembled:
HONDA DEVELOPMENT & MANUFACTURING OF AMERICA, LLC
Vehicle Age:
22 year(s)

The other guy that is selling his online as a 50th anniversary 1999 SE : his vin read out is this:

1999 HONDA GL1500SE (GOLD WING SE)
Assembled:
HONDA DEVELOPMENT & MANUFACTURING OF AMERICA, LLC
Vehicle Age:
22 year(s)
_________________________________________________________
I am wondering if it makes a difference and if that difference is so great that someone would spend all that extra dough to make it look like it's something it is not. I mean I dont see why anyone would do this just to yank my chain. anyone have this happen ?
Does it have a CB? Does it have a spoiler on the trunk lid? Rear stereo speakers? "SE" badge on the left saddlebag (instead of "Aspencade")? Two-tone paint? Lighted handlebar switches? Adjustable passenger footboards? Foot warmer vents? Those were SE-specific items (although some could be added as options to an Aspencade).
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imneverlast wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:01 am I just bought a Bike that I was told was and That I believed to be a 50th anniversary SE. it has the anniversary Keys, emblems on the bike, all that good stuff. But I just ran the vin on some free check sites and they are saying it's an Aspencade. My Title just reads 1999 HOND MC CYL GLDWING <-- that is the DMV's doings there. I wonder though if somethings up.

I had looked up a load of bikes before, for sale you know while I was shopping, and some have the Vin listed in the ads for people to check up on. My Bike sale was fairly Local. around 25 min from my house, I didn't get a chance to run a vin or anything before I bought it ( Well I mean I didn't make the time to do it till afterwards ) The Guy seemed straight forward and a good guy.

anywho! The bikes got all the emblems and everything and now I am wondering if someone doctored this up to be a SE or what.. what I was getting at about the bikes I was looking at before I bought this one , I ran their vins and one of them was a 1999 50th anniversary GL1500SE and the vin came up with it as just that. Mine come up as :

1999 HONDA GL1500A (GOLD WING ASPENCADE)
Assembled:
HONDA DEVELOPMENT & MANUFACTURING OF AMERICA, LLC
Vehicle Age:
22 year(s)

The other guy that is selling his online as a 50th anniversary 1999 SE : his vin read out is this:

1999 HONDA GL1500SE (GOLD WING SE)
Assembled:
HONDA DEVELOPMENT & MANUFACTURING OF AMERICA, LLC
Vehicle Age:
22 year(s)
_________________________________________________________
I am wondering if it makes a difference and if that difference is so great that someone would spend all that extra dough to make it look like it's something it is not. I mean I dont see why anyone would do this just to yank my chain. anyone have this happen ?
How about taking a picture of your bike and show us what you believe to be SE markings. A picture is easily worth a thousand words.

The Aspencade and the SE have many identical features. But as WingAdmin states, there are differenrces.
The CB and CB Antenna and Spoiler can and were usually added. Other features were not cost effective or easily added such as the two tone paint. I've noticed that the Black SE's did not have two tone paint.

Here is an interesting picture I just located. It appears to be an export 1999 SE.


Notice the lack of a CB radio but it still has the larger control assembly on the left handlebar like the US spec 1999 SE, minus the CB controls.
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Didn't the SE stereo include lighted controls and buttons and a "Next station" scan feature on the FM tuning? My '93 Aspy has the AM/FM/Cassette but has no lights or station scan.
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The DMV doesn't usually care about trim levels on vehicles, so this information won't show up.

If it has all of the SE features, does it matter if it was originally an Aspencade? Did you pay extra because it was supposedly an SE?
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IF,
it has the Honda CB, it is a SE bike.

Oklahoma DMV just simply noted that my 1800 was a two letter character, generic in that it meant "motorcycle" :roll:
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AZgl1800 wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:49 pm IF,
it has the Honda CB, it is a SE bike.
Not true.
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SE have the fancy toe warmers :) Also adjustable passenger floorboards
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I'm not sure of I am doing this correctly here. This one reply button was all I could find and so many folks answered. I'm guessing I just answer all from this one reply.
It is dark out ( I am mostly night people ) But I got some good pics of my dirty new to me bike. Oh

Nope, I see below here there is more places to reply.

I am going to post the pics here. well I will try. Hmm, this picture thing is not working for me between the [img] things.

Trying attachments. These loaded up. I hope that's how I am supposed to do this.
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Yikes, those pics posted but it seems a long mess.

Ok. I thought I only had one chance to write for a sec but now I found this post reply thing again. No pics in this one. Just answers for these other posts.

Toe warmers ( I dont know what to check for for this LOL ) My feet are sz 17 so I am having some serious issuses being a 1st time heel toe shift guy. I am not sure if the ones I have ( in pics) are rated.

My Bike does not have a CB on it presently, it has a blank plate where I have seen cb's installed. I have checked into the CB but seems like they cost more than half what I paid for the whole bike for the set up. There is dual Jacks for the communications between riders on the bike. I dont know if they work however.

Oklahoma ( oolagah Guy) Besides being from here in Idaho, I am from Mannford, KEYSTONE. LOL just thought I'd say hi. I have never been to a Oklahoma DMV, Only to Tag Agencies - I wonder if things are different now. But Yeah, I ran that area for years back in the day. :0)

Se Stereo, I don't know what other stereos are like as this is my first wing. This one has a scan button on the dash that I have not yet learned to use, has the knobs, on off volume and tone and a mute knob, I haven't ever seen a mute knob, weird. Left control has many functions for the stereo ( also the tape deck <-- Lynard Skynard / Led zeppelin Hole, is in the tank dash) There is Rear speakers on either side of the rear seat. ( they are Blown but there is speakers LOL ) I haven't been able to program radio stations yet. the ones present are very sad.

You can see the pics now, it is one of two red colors, So Nope no Two Tone ( If I had a choice this would be White ) I am not sure which it is, I will need to find out the color code as the previous owner had this bike fall over in the garage and the when they picked it back up it fell over the other way so It has some scuffs and a couple of broken tabs and stuff. I have priced all that stuff and looks like I will be busting out super glue and JB weld to get stuff patched back up.

so from you guys questions - I am guessing it's an aspencade since no CB, No Two Tone. I put about 35 miles on it getting it home and to my sisters to show off a sec, it went to 75000 even.
It's running nice, no weird noises, the foot shifter is weird for me to get used to but I have never ever used one at all and I have sz 17 feet so I dont know if that is normal. The rear Brake is equally not well made for a large size foot. I feel cramped on this bike really, I am trying to get used to it though. it's very different, so quite even when getting on it. also, It kind of reminds me of my old sit down wet bikes from back in the day to drive .like a boat.
If I cannot get used to it by mid spring I will probably sell it and get something with a a Bigger rider in mind. The wife likes it though so ya never know. :0)

I do not know if the timing belt has been changed out. it has 75 grand on it, should I change this out ya think? what do you think this ride should have sold for?
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That is an Aspencade, not an SE. It should be badged as such on the saddlebags, but no pic of that area.
You should change the timing belts and inspect everything else, especially if you don't have service records.
The floorboards and shifter are aftermarket, and you may want to go back to stock for a number of reasons.
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Definately not an SE. No CB, sound system controls show it to be an Aspy.
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AZgl1800 wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:49 pm IF,
it has the Honda CB, it is a SE bike.

Oklahoma DMV just simply noted that my 1800 was a two letter character, generic in that it meant "motorcycle" :roll:
John, my 93 Aspy has the Honda CB. It was added later and includes all the controls.
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imneverlast wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:55 am Toe warmers ( I dont know what to check for for this LOL )
On the SE's there is a knob by the upper right vent that opens the toe warmers. It opens vents down by the engine in front of your feet to guide warm air towards your feet. Found it works pretty good.
imneverlast wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:55 am I do not know if the timing belt has been changed out. it has 75 grand on it, should I change this out ya think? what do you think this ride should have sold for?
Would agree yes changing belts would be a good idea due to age and since your not sure if it was done before. When changed mine they were very old too but when I got the OEM ones off they seemed ok. New belts felt as stiff as the OEM's. But you never know its cheap insurance and the belts aren't too expensive.

Not sure about price I haven't been keeping up. 1500's are terrific but since 1800's prices are much lower for a used one it kind of effects price of everything below it.

My thoughts about heel/toe shifter is unless you really like them would swap them out for OEM if possible. It maybe help with more comfort with brake and shifting with a little more room for the feet.
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AZgl1800 wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:49 pm IF,
it has the Honda CB, it is a SE bike.

Oklahoma DMV just simply noted that my 1800 was a two letter character, generic in that it meant "motorcycle" :roll:
Many Aspencades were ordered with the Honda CB, it was an option available on them. Don't know if it was factory-installed or dealer-installed, but it was definitely available.
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That's definitely an Aspencade. No foot warmer control, no CB, no spoiler, Aspy radio controls, no question at all.
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Happytrails wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:22 am...
My thoughts about heel/toe shifter is unless you really like them would swap them out for OEM if possible. It maybe help with more comfort with brake and shifting with a little more room for the feet.
Getting the heel toe shifter and floorboards off my bike was the first thing I did to mine. I could not stand them. Just felt I was always having to move my legs around way too much when shifting and having to lift my foot to use the brake was really annoying.

Cost me around $100 to buy the used parts off e-bay to swap it back over.
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Awesome,
I guess I jst got a little misled and didn't take the time to check. I assumed it was what they said it was and didn't look it up because of all the 50th anniversary badges all over it. I guess they put those on all of them that year eh? I just went out to move it up higher in the driveway closer to the house and I have no power. LOL kind of a bummer since the battery is brand spanking new. I hope i dont have a short or bad alt .
But yeah, I got it for 2 grand. It runs out great and all. Just needs cleaned up. Hoping that new battery just needed a better start off than it got.
Thanks for all the help. I will be looking around for those factory pegs and shift and brake. That heel toe thing is making me nuts.
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imneverlast wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:14 pm ...assumed it was what they said it was and didn't look it up because of all the 50th anniversary badges all over it. I guess they put those on all of them that year eh?
Seems like they did do that a lot back in those days. The badging is nice. HD used to do the same thing and maybe still does. Every chance to make it special I guess. :)
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Doesn’t it say model designation on gas cap door? My 97 says “GL1500SE” and then the paint code
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68c15 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:10 am Doesn’t it say model designation on gas cap door? My 97 says “GL1500SE” and then the paint code
My 2000SE says GL1500SE and the paint codes on the inside of the fuel door also. My 2000 model year has badges on the trunk and chrome windshield trim that says 25th Anniversary. That would be the 25th Anniversary of building Goldwings. That 50th Anniversary badge on your 99 model is from 1949 when Honda started building motorcycles.


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