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2 Embarrassing Questions

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Hi, again. I have a couple (maybe more) questions about my 94A.

1) What controls the indicator (dash) light test sequence, and headlight? Right now, all of a sudden, when I turn the key on, I get no headlight, and the only indicator light that comes on is the neutral light. The others don't go through the system or bulb check routine. However, when I hit the starter button, the bike fires right up and seems to run fine. After it runs for about 4 or 5 seconds, on comes the headlight and the lights appear to complete a shortened test cycle. They then function normally. I have had the alternator serviced and bench tested successfully. I have a new AGM battery as well. The alt shop said to check for 12v on "the bottom of the T" on the 2 pin connector at the alternator, which I will do when I get it back together. They also suggested that I check all fuses to see if any are blown. Which leads to:::

2) Apparently Big Blue has been so darn reliable (purchased new with 200,000 miles and counting) that it has been years since I have checked any fuses. So, how the heck do I get the fuse box cover off? The owners manual says to "remove the cover".. ??

Any words of wisdom would be appreciated.

Ron in AZ


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I have been trying to find a chart showing what each fuse supports or services. I found this, but cannot get a view of this entire chart. It appears to be what I am looking for, and if I get a complete image, I will post it here. It seems to be very valuable info that I'm surprised is so hard to find..

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I found it on page 1-16 of the Honda Goldwing 1500 1993 Electrical Troubleshooting Manual DDF6B. I can't capture the whole page, but all of the details at the bottom are what I (and possibly others) am looking for.
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IIRC the GL1500 doesn't have any start up test type routine. Turn key, all lights on. Turn key, all lights and engine off.

The starter button disables the headlight to reduce current draw while cranking the engine. My guess is that button is sticking or dirty. I would start with cleaning the handlebar switches along with the ignition switches and the connections to the switch.

Did you get the side cover off and the cover over the fuse box? Pull off gently.
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Thanks. However, on my bike, upon turning on the key, the bottom row of indicators (hi beam, side stand, low fuel, oil pressure, the two cruise system lights, etc) come on momentarily, then go to normal functioning.

But now, they don't come on until after the bike has been running a few seconds. Only the Neutral light comes on at key-on.

Up until this point, the headlight would come on with key-up, turn off during crank, then come back on. Right now, the headlight(s) don't come on at all until the bike is running.

I can't get the fuse box cover off with gentle prying. I don't want to break anything. I already finally snapped a peg on my side cover yesterday, after 28 years of doing it right... Luckily I still have the peg, so will attempt to repair with ABS glue.
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Perhaps a difference in terminology. I still do not believe it is a fuse. A dirty connection somewhere is my suggestion.
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It could very well be. I will post more info as I go along. When I said this all started suddenly happening, there is a long, frustrating story. I will follow these suggestions. I neglected to tell the whole story, hoping that someone here has had a similar experience and could point me in a general direction, similar to you. Thank you.

I will spend a bit more time looking into it, but it wouldn't take very long to exceed my electrical capabilities. I am truly hoping this doesn't change the bike into a parts bike. It's been in the family since day one and I have high hopes to continue the journey with it/him.

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The bulb check when key is first turned to "ON" is performed by the LCD module.
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ct1500 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:53 pm The bulb check when key is first turned to "ON" is performed by the LCD module.

Hmmm. Interesting. Never heard of that module. Thanks!
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landisr wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:26 pm Hmmm. Interesting. Never heard of that module. Thanks!
The one you look at all the time buried within the digital display.
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ct1500 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:01 pm
landisr wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:26 pm Hmmm. Interesting. Never heard of that module. Thanks!
The one you look at all the time buried within the digital display.
:)

I understand and use the LCD display but did not realize it was a module that actually controlled other stuff.
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Andy Cote wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:52 pm IIRC the GL1500 doesn't have any start up test type routine. Turn key, all lights on. Turn key, all lights and engine off.

The starter button disables the headlight to reduce current draw while cranking the engine. My guess is that button is sticking or dirty. I would start with cleaning the handlebar switches along with the ignition switches and the connections to the switch.

Did you get the side cover off and the cover over the fuse box? Pull off gently.
Actually the 1500s do temporarily light up all of the bulbs at Key On.
then they turn OFF, and go to Normal Operation.

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If bulb check happens and headlights come on after bike has been started this might be a symptom of the famous relay #3 not making good contact, vibrations from engine running causing contacts to complete.

Try swapping relay #3 with #5 (Air compressor) and see what happens. Might just need a new relay.
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landisr wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:26 pmHmmm. Interesting. Never heard of that module. Thanks!
And without the display or one not working the air suspension control will not work.


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