Looking at a 1988 GL1500
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Looking at a 1988 GL1500
Hello
Sorry guys, I bet you get this a lot but I could use some information on a bike I'm going to look at this weekend. I currently ride a Yamaha Virago 1100.
The bike I'm looking at now is a 1988 GL1500 with about 99 000 kilometers on it. I think that's roughly 62 000 miles or so. Normally, that would be a whole lot of mileage on a motorcycle, but I understand it's not that much for a Goldwing...right?
Timing belt probably needs to be changed. Apparently half the bike have to come off to access the belt. Will probably have to turn the bike in for this.
Does it run on E10 or does it require E5? Are spare parts easy to source? Can you get a replacement windscreen with the letterbox opening? How do the vents work btw? Can you redirect cold air in the summer? Again...spare parts?
Lots of questions, but any insight you can give is grateful! I bet the fairings alone weigh as much as my entire Virago...
//Ricky
Sorry guys, I bet you get this a lot but I could use some information on a bike I'm going to look at this weekend. I currently ride a Yamaha Virago 1100.
The bike I'm looking at now is a 1988 GL1500 with about 99 000 kilometers on it. I think that's roughly 62 000 miles or so. Normally, that would be a whole lot of mileage on a motorcycle, but I understand it's not that much for a Goldwing...right?
Timing belt probably needs to be changed. Apparently half the bike have to come off to access the belt. Will probably have to turn the bike in for this.
Does it run on E10 or does it require E5? Are spare parts easy to source? Can you get a replacement windscreen with the letterbox opening? How do the vents work btw? Can you redirect cold air in the summer? Again...spare parts?
Lots of questions, but any insight you can give is grateful! I bet the fairings alone weigh as much as my entire Virago...
//Ricky
- Andy Cote
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Re: Looking at a 1988 GL1500
Welcome to the forum.
The GL1500 is a great, well designed and reliable motorcycle. However, it is 35 years old, and, yes, there are some parts that are difficult to find. Like any older vehicle, you will need to find rebuilt, used, salvaged or other types of parts from time to time.
Sounds like you have researched some what already. Timing belts of course. Drive line service from U-Joint to rear tire. Rebuild gas petcock. Expect to replace the rubber hoses, either all at once or as needed. Steering head bearings and fork seals/bushings take a lot of abuse and are probably ready. The good news is that all these parts are readily available in the US and should be available to you. This forum had detailed instructions for all of these projects.
Many windshield choices available to us, with or without the vent. On another thread someone recently posted a link to a European windshield source (might have been Italian).
E10 gasoline is fine. Issues only occur if you leave it parked for extended periods of time. This forum has a few threads on this topic already.
The GL1500 is a great, well designed and reliable motorcycle. However, it is 35 years old, and, yes, there are some parts that are difficult to find. Like any older vehicle, you will need to find rebuilt, used, salvaged or other types of parts from time to time.
Sounds like you have researched some what already. Timing belts of course. Drive line service from U-Joint to rear tire. Rebuild gas petcock. Expect to replace the rubber hoses, either all at once or as needed. Steering head bearings and fork seals/bushings take a lot of abuse and are probably ready. The good news is that all these parts are readily available in the US and should be available to you. This forum had detailed instructions for all of these projects.
Many windshield choices available to us, with or without the vent. On another thread someone recently posted a link to a European windshield source (might have been Italian).
E10 gasoline is fine. Issues only occur if you leave it parked for extended periods of time. This forum has a few threads on this topic already.
2015 Goldwing, basic black
Previously: GL1200 standard, GL1200 Interstate, GL1500 Goldwing, GL1500 Valkyrie Standard, 2000 Valkyrie Interstate, many other Hondas
Previously: GL1200 standard, GL1200 Interstate, GL1500 Goldwing, GL1500 Valkyrie Standard, 2000 Valkyrie Interstate, many other Hondas
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Re: Looking at a 1988 GL1500
Many thanks for the quick reply Andy, much appreciated.
Just an hour ago I got my Virago out from winter storage from the local garage. When I mentioned I was looking at an old GL1500 he looked at me with a facial expression somewhere in between "Are you joking?" and "Are you crazy?" lol...we'll see...maybe I can add it as a secondary bike to my Virago and have it as a project bike.
He claimed sourcing parts is a PITA, not to mention the labour cost he charges each time something needs to be done...
Just an hour ago I got my Virago out from winter storage from the local garage. When I mentioned I was looking at an old GL1500 he looked at me with a facial expression somewhere in between "Are you joking?" and "Are you crazy?" lol...we'll see...maybe I can add it as a secondary bike to my Virago and have it as a project bike.
He claimed sourcing parts is a PITA, not to mention the labour cost he charges each time something needs to be done...
- Sassy
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Re: Looking at a 1988 GL1500
Have an 89 coming up on 200,000klms.
Belts are fairly simple to change following the tutorials on this sites repair section.
if the bike is clean there are many happy miles to be ridden on it.
Good luck with your decision.
Edit, if you don't do your own maintenance and repair it eill be an expensive bike to keep.
Belts are fairly simple to change following the tutorials on this sites repair section.
if the bike is clean there are many happy miles to be ridden on it.
Good luck with your decision.
Edit, if you don't do your own maintenance and repair it eill be an expensive bike to keep.
Enjoying the Darkside
Fred
Fred
- FluffyDog6
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Re: Looking at a 1988 GL1500
If you are not prepared to do your own work on a GL1500, you may be in for a surprise about how much labor charges will be taking all the body panels off to do even the simplest thing.
Changing the air filter is a multi-hour process, and the filter itself is $32.
The bikes are reliable, but in the US at least, many dealers won't work on them as too old, and independent shops that will are few and far between. It makes it necassary to be a mechanic yourself to keep the bike going. Guides like this website and the freely available shop manual are invaluable for that.
Changing the air filter is a multi-hour process, and the filter itself is $32.
The bikes are reliable, but in the US at least, many dealers won't work on them as too old, and independent shops that will are few and far between. It makes it necassary to be a mechanic yourself to keep the bike going. Guides like this website and the freely available shop manual are invaluable for that.
1996 GL1500 A
1996 GL1500 SE
1996 GL1500 SE
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1989 GL1500 FOR SALE
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Kawasaki Coyote (early 1970s)
Honda 350 (mid 1970s)
Kawasaki KZ900-PS (1977)
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Kawasaki KZ1000C (1978)
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Re: Looking at a 1988 GL1500
If you don't do your own work, you will not be happy.
If you are willing to learn to work on a bike, this is reasonably easy to work on -- a JIS screwdriver and a few YouTube videos will have you wondering why you ever paid anyone else to work on a bike. The timing belts are not that expensive, but will be a couple of hours' worth of work with ordinary hand tools (AND that JIS screwdriver).
If you are willing to learn to work on a bike, this is reasonably easy to work on -- a JIS screwdriver and a few YouTube videos will have you wondering why you ever paid anyone else to work on a bike. The timing belts are not that expensive, but will be a couple of hours' worth of work with ordinary hand tools (AND that JIS screwdriver).
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Re: Looking at a 1988 GL1500
Many thanks, lads. Really appreciated. I'm going to look at the bike in person this weekend. I also had a look at all the different YouTube tutorials and article guides available through this forum and it's really extensive! I can see this being a great and helpful community (as is the Virago-community for that matter...lots of info and lots of knowledge out there).
If timing belt hasnt been changed on the bike I'll be looking at, and tires arent changed either, I will try and haggle a good price. If I can get the price down, I might ad the GL1500 as a second/alternative bike to my Virago. We'll see...
Thanks again - if I disappear into nothingness and my profile deleted, it means I never got the bike. If I do, I'll probably see you soon
If timing belt hasnt been changed on the bike I'll be looking at, and tires arent changed either, I will try and haggle a good price. If I can get the price down, I might ad the GL1500 as a second/alternative bike to my Virago. We'll see...
Thanks again - if I disappear into nothingness and my profile deleted, it means I never got the bike. If I do, I'll probably see you soon
- WingNoob
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Re: Looking at a 1988 GL1500
FWIW, I've been able to get every mechanical part that I've needed (not very many) directly from the local Honda dealer. Everything was in stock at the local Honda warehouse. Of course, body parts or oddball parts may be harder to find.
Timing belts, along with a bunch of other maintenance jobs while the front of the bike was apart, took me an afternoon. I'm a Very amateur mechanic.
Timing belts, along with a bunch of other maintenance jobs while the front of the bike was apart, took me an afternoon. I'm a Very amateur mechanic.
- khspe2
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Re: Looking at a 1988 GL1500
Don’t be afraid of the mileage. I have a 1988 GL1500 with 174,000 miles and it still runs great.
Ditto on the need to be mechanically inclined.
Ditto on the need to be mechanically inclined.
- thebruce
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Re: Looking at a 1988 GL1500
Good evening.
My $.02 in dealing with a marginally newer but more well traveled wing than that one:
If you don't turn wrenches, or know someone you can bribe with a box or 3 of beer you're gonna have a bad time.
If timing belts aren't recent, with proof, it's gotta be worth a decent hit on price, unless already cheep. Same with rear tire. Tire is worth $250-300 from the right place (Dunlop E4 for me), labour to change probably more.
When the tire is off service the driveline. You don't want to go back for that 1 little thing. Throw a ujoint and cover at it if you are feeling wealthy, or if the bike shudders with no tension on driveline decelerating in gear. Easy(ish) to do once you are there. Honda moly lube is where it's at.
I splurged and got a madstad windshield last year. Worth every penny. I went as short as they sell, and it's still tall enough to push the wind over my girl on the pillion.
If you are in the business of timing belts, drop the entire front end off the bike and change the steering bearings, fork seals and bushings at the same time as the belts. More room to work and made a world of difference on mine. Thicker oil than stock is also a good thing. I am liking the 10w in mine. Tried 15w and it was pretty stiff, but quite responsive.
Tutorials galore on this site, none of this is rocket surgery.
Change the front pads while you are there if needed. Honda pads are worth it. The 4* timing wheel goes on with the timing belts, worth every penny. A superbrace or blackwing brace (I think) makes the front a lot more rigid, again, well worth the dollars.
IF someone has taken to adding a bunch of incandescent (hot and power hungry) lighting on the bike, or has otherwise hacked into the wiring of the bike, you might have a bad time. 1st thing I do with any vehicle I buy is get rid of any substandard wiring, which is most DIY wiring in my experience.
The alternators on these (in my somewhat professional opinion) are fully adequate for all original intended purposes of the bike.
When there is an added 20 or 30 amps of load due to "Rings of fire!!!" Lights on the forks, lights on the windshield, lights on the saddlebags in addition to the factory lights on the saddlebags... maybe the poor old 40A alternator (550W on a good day) just isn't up to the task. The stock headlights alone use over 100w if I'm not mistaken.
I have 270,000 km on mine and am sure it's a stock alternator, if not the original one. Caveat being my bike escaped all power accessories other than a heated vest at one point. I'm now LED everywhere I could find a light... with some stereo upgrades.
I think I will be going on year 4 with the wing. No regrets, she's paid for. Kept the AGM battery on a tender over winter and she flashed up without any issues since being parked in October. No puddle of oil, no backfiring, no worries.
I've been front to back to front on this thing and am confident it will do another season without issue, aside from a front tire change when I get around to bying one. Once they are dialed in they are pretty much unstoppable, and are a blast to ride.
I've had good luck dealing with Cyclemax, Fortnine, www.bike-parts-honda.ca (assuming you are in the great white north) and my "local" dealerships. I live out in the weeds so if I can't get a thing shipped to me it has to wait for my next trip into town, which isn't very often.
Your mileage may vary, no guarantee expressed or implied.
My $.02 in dealing with a marginally newer but more well traveled wing than that one:
If you don't turn wrenches, or know someone you can bribe with a box or 3 of beer you're gonna have a bad time.
If timing belts aren't recent, with proof, it's gotta be worth a decent hit on price, unless already cheep. Same with rear tire. Tire is worth $250-300 from the right place (Dunlop E4 for me), labour to change probably more.
When the tire is off service the driveline. You don't want to go back for that 1 little thing. Throw a ujoint and cover at it if you are feeling wealthy, or if the bike shudders with no tension on driveline decelerating in gear. Easy(ish) to do once you are there. Honda moly lube is where it's at.
I splurged and got a madstad windshield last year. Worth every penny. I went as short as they sell, and it's still tall enough to push the wind over my girl on the pillion.
If you are in the business of timing belts, drop the entire front end off the bike and change the steering bearings, fork seals and bushings at the same time as the belts. More room to work and made a world of difference on mine. Thicker oil than stock is also a good thing. I am liking the 10w in mine. Tried 15w and it was pretty stiff, but quite responsive.
Tutorials galore on this site, none of this is rocket surgery.
Change the front pads while you are there if needed. Honda pads are worth it. The 4* timing wheel goes on with the timing belts, worth every penny. A superbrace or blackwing brace (I think) makes the front a lot more rigid, again, well worth the dollars.
IF someone has taken to adding a bunch of incandescent (hot and power hungry) lighting on the bike, or has otherwise hacked into the wiring of the bike, you might have a bad time. 1st thing I do with any vehicle I buy is get rid of any substandard wiring, which is most DIY wiring in my experience.
The alternators on these (in my somewhat professional opinion) are fully adequate for all original intended purposes of the bike.
When there is an added 20 or 30 amps of load due to "Rings of fire!!!" Lights on the forks, lights on the windshield, lights on the saddlebags in addition to the factory lights on the saddlebags... maybe the poor old 40A alternator (550W on a good day) just isn't up to the task. The stock headlights alone use over 100w if I'm not mistaken.
I have 270,000 km on mine and am sure it's a stock alternator, if not the original one. Caveat being my bike escaped all power accessories other than a heated vest at one point. I'm now LED everywhere I could find a light... with some stereo upgrades.
I think I will be going on year 4 with the wing. No regrets, she's paid for. Kept the AGM battery on a tender over winter and she flashed up without any issues since being parked in October. No puddle of oil, no backfiring, no worries.
I've been front to back to front on this thing and am confident it will do another season without issue, aside from a front tire change when I get around to bying one. Once they are dialed in they are pretty much unstoppable, and are a blast to ride.
I've had good luck dealing with Cyclemax, Fortnine, www.bike-parts-honda.ca (assuming you are in the great white north) and my "local" dealerships. I live out in the weeds so if I can't get a thing shipped to me it has to wait for my next trip into town, which isn't very often.
Your mileage may vary, no guarantee expressed or implied.
It doesn't matter what you ride, as long as you have your knees to the breeze.
- Corkster52
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Re: Looking at a 1988 GL1500
If you're doing it your first time it can take a bit, but (having worked on my 1500s for over 10 years) I can do mine in about 30 minutes.FluffyDog6 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:27 pm Changing the air filter is a multi-hour process, and the filter itself is $32.
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Re: Looking at a 1988 GL1500
Well, lads...it seems the Goldwing I was gonna look at this weekend has been sold already.
Your replies would have helped a lot though so I'm still grateful for your time. If it's alright, I might just stay a member of this forum. I hate the fact that I never even got to see one up close, so I'm already browsing through the ads in search of another one within my budget...
Your replies would have helped a lot though so I'm still grateful for your time. If it's alright, I might just stay a member of this forum. I hate the fact that I never even got to see one up close, so I'm already browsing through the ads in search of another one within my budget...