idler remote adjustment


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the remote to the idler wont turn i need to adjust. do i have to remove the carbs to see why. or is there something else i can check. i got it down to the carbs but i dont see how to get to it.is it the cable or the idler screw? any help will be appreciated


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Nlmman47 wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:52 pm the remote to the idler wont turn i need to adjust. do i have to remove the carbs to see why. or is there something else i can check. i got it down to the carbs but i dont see how to get to it.is it the cable or the idler screw? any help will be appreciated
On what bike???
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I have a 93 goldwing aspencade
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So you are asking about the idle adjustment knob?
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Yes , I can't turn the remote cable for the idler. So I know it's either the cable or idle screw itself
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Yes , I can't turn the remote cable for the idler. So I know it's either the cable or idle screw itself
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Probably corrosion on the screw. Spray some penetrating oil on the screw and work it back and forth.
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That flexible adjustment shaft is only physically attached to the bracket at the carburetor I believe. You will have to get to the attachment point at the carburetor to spray some penetrant to it. Removing the side of the fairing where you right knee rests may help to get you access.
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Like @rambozo said, open up the fuel door, spray some penetrating oil around the knob on the cable. Let is sit for about 30 minutes. Mine would not move at all, but I did this about 6 months ago and it has worked like a champ since.
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Ok I will try this and hope it will work. Thanks for the input
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Nlmman47 wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:11 pm Ok I will try this and hope it will work. Thanks for the input
Any results?
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Yes that did the trick. I removed the air box but not the carbs. Now I need to adjust my throttle cables. Then put everything back. Joy
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I took my bike for a test drive for about 2 miles ran good then all of a sudden the throttle went near wide open. My throttle doesn't seem to be stuck but it won't throttle down. Had to use some ingenious on and off to get it back home, iT was only a mile hope I didn't hurt the transmission.. could it be my cruise or electric short. I'm not sure what. Any ideas
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That is a twin cable push pull throttle. Something has to be very wrong for it to be stuck open. Probably broke the return cable and jammed something near the carbs.
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I took the grip apart and pulled on both cables didn't see anything wrong they moved like normal
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Did you also check the choke cable?
Are carbs moving when you twist the grip, and do they hit the idle stop screws?
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i have not tore back down to actually look at the carbs again. but when i pull the throttle it well increase even more. but it will not decrease. it almost like the cruise control has got it open. that just a guess. my throttle linkage seems to be moving like it suppose to do.i turn my idle adjustment screw and it turns so i don't think that's the problem, it seems to be working not broke. it seems like all of the linages for the cars are working, the only thing i cant check is the cruise control. i was thinking maybe something is keeping the throttle open on the carbs which goes back to the cruise control. if i am not mistaking it is electrical controlled. i also notice when i turn my bike to the on position my amp gauge starts to drop. maybe a short? i do appreciate all your suggestions. maybe we can figure something out
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Nlmman47 wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:57 am i have not tore back down to actually look at the carbs again. but when i pull the throttle it well increase even more. but it will not decrease. it almost like the cruise control has got it open. that just a guess. my throttle linkage seems to be moving like it suppose to do.i turn my idle adjustment screw and it turns so i don't think that's the problem, it seems to be working not broke. it seems like all of the linages for the cars are working, the only thing i cant check is the cruise control. i was thinking maybe something is keeping the throttle open on the carbs which goes back to the cruise control. if i am not mistaking it is electrical controlled. i also notice when i turn my bike to the on position my amp gauge starts to drop. maybe a short? i do appreciate all your suggestions. maybe we can figure something out
It's time to open it up to inspect the linkages at the minimum.
Was this bike running properly for you this summer? What caused you to look to adjusting the idle starting this thread of your 'remote idler adjustment '?

The cruise does not activate below @35-55 mph. Yes it is tied into the ecm. But....my money is on mechanical or vacuum related.
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it was working fine until i parked it, except it was starting to idle a little fast going up to 11 to 1200 rpms not bad but i could not adjust the idle it was stuck. i was just thinking maybe my cruise linkage got stuck open when i was going back home after i ramp it up then i let it go back down and that's when everything went haywire.could a vacuum leak to the cruise control cause this problem. i had to put them back on the cruise , but it does not seem like a vacuum leak but maybe. i agree it does seem more like a mechanical problem. but the throttle linkage seems to be working and the only other linkage is the cruise. unless it is in the carbs it self.i hate to have to break it back down again but it looks likely i have to. i just hope to have some direction of what i am going to look for. could a vacuum leak or electrical short would cause it to cruise to open up like that? i know i am grasping at straws but you know the aggravation of tearing that part of the bike down lol
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The cruise control is actuated by vacuum. The hand control is capable of overriding the cruise with no problem, even if it were to be stuck on. That is why it has two cables, one to pull open and one to pull closed. Don't just release the throttle, forcibly turn it backwards. There is also a switch that when the throttle is turned backwards it will disable the cruise control. All of this is spelled out in the owner's manual. This is a pretty fool-proof throttle system that Honda has been using since the 60s. I expect there is corrosion in the system and it needs to completely come apart, be cleaned, inspected and lubed. Also replace and damaged parts.
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well i guess i take down bit by bit until find the issues ...lol
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I took back down to the carbs. The throttle linkage is moving but does not go all the way to the idle screw. But the slides in the cab at the throttle is almost all the way out. I can push them back in with my fingers but they won't stay. They are vacuum control right?. Got an ideal?
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Your carbs need a cleaning and rebuild.
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Just an odd thought. I removed my carbs this afternoon. When I read your post, I remembered that my idle adjust knob was difficult to turn, so I looked. The cable has a metal ferrule crimped on the end of it where it engages the cam mechanism for idle adjust. It was bent like 30 degrees.... no wonder it was difficult to move. Could yours also have the same affliction? So, does the knob turn and nothing happens? Or, does the knob not turn at all?


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