Help! 1997 GL1500 trouble removing the connector piece for the two exhaust pipes in front of the rear tire.


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Help! 1997 GL1500 trouble removing the connector piece for the two exhaust pipes in front of the rear tire.

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Hi everyone,
I hope you're all well. I'm moving along nicely on my project, but I've run into a snag... the left rear exhaust pipe is broken where it meets the connector from the manifolds to the exhaust pipes. I've heated it up and loosen it but cannot remove it? Don't want to damage anything, so figured, better to ask the experts.
Will attach pictures...
Any help would be great, it feels like something
In holding this piece from coming out..I am removing the rear tire to make some extra room. Thank you in advance.
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Re: Help! 1997 GL1500 trouble removing the connector piece for the two exhaust pipes in front of the rear tire.

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Hi there

I've got the same issue on my previous bike
be patient; and put at first some WD40, or equivalent lubricant.
I think it is mandatory to remove one of exaust collector pipe (right one seems to be the easiest one), and you may find some extra job there, as some screws (dowel) might be broken.
Then, try to make it move up & down.
Then, if you are good in welding, try to replace rusty tubes by inox ones, or replace it with chineese tubes or old one in a good shape at the same price, up to you.
this part is not more manufactured
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Re: Help! 1997 GL1500 trouble removing the connector piece for the two exhaust pipes in front of the rear tire.

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Thanks for your reply! I've done both WD40 and a tourch loosen it up.... It's loose, just can't seem to get it off... I'm using a rubber mallet hitting one side the the other.. it moves but will not fall off :roll: :roll:
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I'm interested to know what you will do about the piece you broke off. Lots of rust there and pretty thin. Don't know if it can be welded.
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you have to remove the smoke box from this side:


you have to release this other side of the collector exhaust gaz.
6 bolts to be removed, but to be fully wet with WD40, as they have been heated. not too much power, as they can break !


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MikeB wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:42 pm I'm interested to know what you will do about the piece you broke off. Lots of rust there and pretty thin. Don't know if it can be welded.


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Rambozo wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:45 pm
MikeB wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:42 pm I'm interested to know what you will do about the piece you broke off. Lots of rust there and pretty thin. Don't know if it can be welded.


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Re: Help! 1997 GL1500 trouble removing the connector piece for the two exhaust pipes in front of the rear tire.

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So I found online the part I'm trying to remove, I will attach the picture below, again just want to make sure there are no other bolts other than the ones on either side connecting the maifolds.
With regards to repairs.. the piece actually is in very good condition with only surface rust. welding a new piece of the existing piece will be the qays to go here I'm hoping.
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I was banging on this piece with a rubber, mallet with no luck.
I was banging on this piece with a rubber, mallet with no luck.

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onedayright wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:04 pm So I found online the part I'm trying to remove, I will attach the picture below, again just want to make sure there are no other bolts other than the ones on either side connecting the maifolds.
With regards to repairs.. the piece actually is in very good condition with only surface rust. welding a new piece of the existing piece will be the qays to go here I'm hoping.
"qays" What does that mean/

Your best bet is to find a replacement and replace the one on your bike. Trying to weld it is an exercise in futility I'd wager.
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Sorry auto correct is annoying, I meant: will be the way to go from here.

Have you ever removed this part during a repair?
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I have removed the mufflers but never the exhaust chamber. To remove it would require removing at least one exhaust manifold I believe.
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Hey Mike, thanks for your comments. I have loosen it off where both
exhaust manifolds meet the chamber but just won't come off. I was trying not to remove either of the manifolds if possible. There is room for the piece to come off but man it loosens on one side then you hit the chamber on the other side and back and forth. :roll: :roll:
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It is a tough joint to get loose. The chamber outlet joint has a tendency to compress in the center where the muffler clamp has compressed the muffler gasket around the chamber outlet pipe. The outer portion of the chamber joint at the muffler is not compressed. It resembles the shape of an hourglass and that is why the are hard to remove.
If you can destroy the muffler gasket without destroying the chamber outlet pipe or muffler, the will separate.

But it appears in your pictures that you have broken off the chamber outlet pipe where it connects to the muffler. I think your chamber is ready for the scrap bin.
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One more thing, one of the exhaust manifolds most certainly needs to be free of the engine and frame to extract that chamber and install a replacement chamber.
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Thanks Mike,
the bike came to me with it broken and it appeared to had a unsuccessful weld repair done. I have no clue how it broke off the way it did??.. Ok, well it looks like I'm going to be loosening one of the exhaust manifolds to get this chamber off. I have never removed or loosed one before🙉. I will keep you guys posted!
Thanks for your time and advise🙂🙌🥂
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At one time there was an aftermarket replacement for that chamber. X something as I recall. The OEM part can be had from Honda, for a price. :o
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Thks Rambozo,
LOL, so I saw a used one for $800+ US and another $160+ for shipping 🙉🙈 definitely need to be careful not to damage it and I will have a professional welder do the repair. I will be working on it again this Saturday, hopefully will be able to remove it.🤞🤞
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Have you looked on Ebay? I've seen several there. Some good, some not so good.
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Hey Mike,
not yet, but I will once I get the dam thing removed Lol...I will then figure out if I can repair it, if not Ebay it is Mike. I really won't have a choice at that point. No way I want to get crazy re $$$
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I just had to replace my exhaust "collector" last year on a 97, 1500. Definitely had to remove manifold. Then some careful wiggling and it fell off. Also found replacement "collector" online (Goldwing repair/parts site on Facebook) WITH mufflers for $300. Good luck.
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Thank you! It got really cold here (Toronto Canada) so I have not gotten to the removal. I should be back at it in the next week or two.
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See my Topic, GL1500 exhaust collector by agedbikeman
viewtopic.php?t=66469&p=396865

Bin the rusty old thing and follow my post, all in stainless steel, very quiet, never rust, last the rest of the life of the bike, will accept oem mufflers or aftermarket mufflers.

Buy from Amazon china about 100 dollars
Any questions feel free to ask me
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Good morning and thank you for your information. Still to cold to get into my garage, but I bought a Chinese diesel heater on Amazon, so I will install that at some point to allow me to work inside the garage during these winter months.
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agedbikeman wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:00 am See my Topic, GL1500 exhaust collector by agedbikeman
viewtopic.php?t=66469&p=396865

Bin the rusty old thing and follow my post, all in stainless steel, very quiet, never rust, last the rest of the life of the bike, will accept oem mufflers or aftermarket mufflers.

Buy from Amazon china about 100 dollars
Any questions feel free to ask me
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Re: Help! 1997 GL1500 trouble removing the connector piece for the two exhaust pipes in front of the rear tire.

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Good Day, I had my collector box removed in the summer of this year and bought a replacement part that looked nothing like the stock item. The photos in this post look exactly like the old item that came off the bike. my GL1500 is from the year 2000. it took a couple of hours or more to get the old item off the bike and the new one bolted and clamped right on. it sounds better and I'm happy.. I took the bike to a new shop in Tacoma and paid to get the job done.

Link to my choice.

https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Exhau ... e904010ad0

Good day, Mike Mc Donald


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