starter relays...starter motor?


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starter relays...starter motor?

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99 GL 1500 SE
I just replaced starter relay A, (the one by the battery)
When I hit the start button, I can hear both relays A & B clicking.
But the starter motor doesn't turn. Nothing.
The 30 amp fuse at relay A is good.
Does this mean the starter motor is bad?
Thanks guys.

P.S. How do I test the starter motor?


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Re: starter relays...starter motor?

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Just because it clicks, doesn't mean it's working. Check for power in and out with a test light or a meter. Measure starter resistance, if it's open, you have a problem. You can also just power the starter with a jump wire to see if it will spin over. Usually just stuck or worn brushes that can be fixed without the need for a new starter.
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Relay A is brand new, from the Honda package.
I have to assume that it's working because it clicks loudly when I hit the starter button.
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Further testing....
When I hit the start button, I get a severe voltage drop, down to 5 volts or less and the starter motor doesn't even try to turn.
When I disconnect the starter motor wire from Relay B, I get only a normal voltage drop, down to about 11.9 or so.
I strongly suspect that the starter motor is toast.
Tomorrow I'll pull the starter out and check it on the bench.
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Sure sounds like it's locked up. Before you yank the starter, put it in gear and make sure you can turn the engine over with the rear wheel.
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"It's dead, Jim" (old Star Trek reference)
Just pulled the starter out. (what a pain in the ***. Hope I can get another one back in)
It's locked up solid.
Applied 12 volts from a 50 amp charger. Nothing. And the motor has that burnt electrical smell to it.
Time to order a new one.
Most of what I see on line say "Made in China".
After my bad experience with the damned Chinese alternators, I'm very hesitant to order one of these.
Anyone have a good low mileage original Mitsuba starter they want to part with?
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Try a local Automotive starter/alternator rebuilder?
A local inventor has figured a way to turn a sausage grinder backward to manufacture pigs. :lol:

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Try these guys:

https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/

They have done very good work or me.
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Re: starter relays...starter motor?

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rider1939 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 8:09 am Try these guys:

https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/

They have done very good work or me.
Hey! Great! They have a rebuild kit for my starter.
I've already ordered a used starter, but I may still get the rebuild kit and fix my original one to keep as a spare.
Thanks!


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