Starting issue


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64deville
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Starting issue

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Hi folks newbie here. I purchased a 1999 GL1500 SE with Friendship 3 sidecar last week out of Florida and had it shipped here to NC. At arrival it would not start but at 5am didn't have time to deal with. Later here is what I have found. Ignition on all lights on dash and headlights come on then when starter button pressed headlight goes out but bike wont turn over. I did some lurking around here and have ordered some Goldwingdocs relays. Couple days later I checked all fuses and when I got to the relays I found out they had already been replaced with guess what, all new goldwingdocs relays. Maybe PO is a member? Later I saw a video of touching two solenoid contacts with screwdriver and tried that and bike started right up. To satisfy my immediate needs of two (3) wheel anxiety I wired a button switch to the said solenoid. Works great. So here are my questions
Is my quick button fix a problem?
Is the said solenoid actually starter relay A?
If it is starter relay A would that suggest starter relay B is bad?
Thanks for any replies and for letting me join the forum.


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Welcome to the forum.

No, that is not a solution. In fact it's a fire danger. Remove that ASAP.

Do you hear any relays when you press the starter switch? Did you try with the clutch lever pulled? Does N light work? Assuming this was starting okay prior to purchase, I would look for loose wire connections, check the kickstand switch (could be bypassed due to hack) but should not affect anything if in Neutral. Check the kill switch.

BTW, we need a picture of the rig.
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I wanted to add that reverse light functions normally along with sidestand and neutral lights
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64deville wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:04 am I wanted to add that reverse light functions normally along with sidestand and neutral lights
Does reverse work?
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Had to doublecheck and yes when starter button pressed there is a click coming from relay area
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when bike is running and reverse lever pulled up I hit starter button and headlight goes out but no reverse
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Andy can you elaborate in fire hazard? Not questioning your reply just trying to understand Thanks
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64deville wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:25 am I saw a video of touching two solenoid contacts with screwdriver and tried that and bike started right up... I wired a button switch to the said solenoid.
Many of us a one time or another have "jumped" a solenoid using a screwdriver. I once rented a box truck from Ryder and the salesman did this after pulling the truck from the service line. Told me to just leave it running until I brought it back. Ya gutta do what ya gutta do.

Anyway, while Honda electrical engineers might seem to get paid by the switch and relay companies, all that stuff is there for a reason. If your temporary switch and wiring is properly sized and fused for the amperage with waterproofed connections, it may last forever but, IMHO, imposes a risk.

It's likely one of the relays. I'm going to look at the wiring diagrams and service manual to see which relays and other components should be checked out.
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Thanks Andy and I agree I just couldn't let this thing sit one more day especially since we got to 60 degrees yesterday. My plan is get it corrected
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Replaced battery and swapped relays and still no crank.


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