TRANSMISSION WOES


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GRAPEAPE94
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Well, the dreaded transmission problems reared its' ugly head last Sat. I had not been for a long (more than 50 miles) ride in a long time so last Sat. I decided to ride across the state to Palm Beach. Maybe even go by Trumps' place. I was about 50 miles from home just cruising down a nice empty 2 lane highway on cruise control at about 70 mph when all of a sudden the bike started jumping in and out of 5th gear. I pulled over to the side of the road, put the bike in neutral and was still hearing noise. The noise went away when I pulled in the clutch. To make a long story short I was able to get it home in 4th gear. Right now the bike is in the local shop as I do not have the time or knowledge to do the repairs myself. I know that it is going to be expensive what with having to pull the engine and all.



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Sorry to hear it GrapeApe94. My riding partner's 2006 did that over a year ago. He replaced the engine with one out of a 2009 wrecked bike. All is well with the bike now. Maybe you can find a salvaged GL1800 and scavenge the engine out of it. I am sure there are lot of them out there.
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One thing is on your side...You're in Florida!
Below is a link to a guy in Zephyrhills, FL that does the work YOU NEED! Knows the Goldwing GL1800 inside and out and will fix you up.
The guy is HIGHLY regarded in his expertise.......
http://www.justwings.com/
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Had my friend lived near Florida, or even within 1000 miles of Florida, that is how he would have gone but being from the Northwest, it was not an option. Local engine replacement was the best option.
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Man that really sucks.. I lost the transmission in my 1990 last year headed home from the coast. Fix was an engine swap. It had 142k on the odometer when it headed south. How many miles on yours? I bought a 2005 while I had it down. Amazes me how some will go forever and there's that 1-2 percent that can't. If my 2005 goes south it better do it before the warranty runs out..

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Have a friend that is a certified Honda mechanic . I told him I was upgrading to an 1800 from a 1500 and heard of some issues with the trans . I asked him his opinion he told me to stay away from any 1800 that had a heel toe shifter installed . Many will ask whats the difference ? All I can tell you is this guy has been working for Honda for 25 plus years and thats what he said. Im curious does yours have a heel toe shifter?

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fdxhawkr15374 wrote:Have a friend that is a certified Honda mechanic . I told him I was upgrading to an 1800 from a 1500 and heard of some issues with the trans . I asked him his opinion he told me to stay away from any 1800 that had a heel toe shifter installed . Many will ask whats the difference ? All I can tell you is this guy has been working for Honda for 25 plus years and thats what he said. Im curious does yours have a heel toe shifter?
There's been lots that went south without a heel-toe shifter.They updated the dogs on the gears in 2014 to lock in better.The guy in the above link still has the dogs undercut at a machine shop before he installs them.He knows his **** when it comes to these trans.
If I'da known it would last this long,I'da taken better care of it.
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fdxhawkr15374 wrote:Have a friend that is a certified Honda mechanic . I told him I was upgrading to an 1800 from a 1500 and heard of some issues with the trans . I asked him his opinion he told me to stay away from any 1800 that had a heel toe shifter installed . Many will ask whats the difference ? All I can tell you is this guy has been working for Honda for 25 plus years and thats what he said. Im curious does yours have a heel toe shifter?
There's been lots that went south without a heel-toe shifter.They updated the dogs on the gears in 2014 to lock in better.The guy in the above link still has the dogs undercut at a machine shop before he installs them.He knows his **** when it comes to these trans.As far as Honda Techs go unless they spend time on the forums a lot of them aren't even aware of a lot issues.Two of the bigger local dealers here weren't even aware that there were still frames showing up cracked or where to look for it.They blame it on hitches and overloading the bags when truth be known it was just a poor design.Same goes for the trannys they automatically jump right to the heal-toe shifter as the cause.Not saying that it couldn't be the shifter aggrivating the issue but the gears were poorly machined to start with.
If I'da known it would last this long,I'da taken better care of it.
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Blaming the heel toe shifter for these issues is typical dealer not knowing what to do. Since Honda had never officially said there is an issue with syncro drum engagement the dealer is pretty much on their own. If the aftermarket shifter was even remotely to blame then evertime they sold a floorboard setup you would have to sign a disclaimer stating this may void the warranty. The 6 cylinder engines has issues from the late 80's thru 98 when they upgraded the shift forks, to little to late. Now here we are with the 1800 showing similar issues with 15 yrs of production and they haven't corrected it? Could have been fixed on the factory floor during final engine assy.with a Dremel tool.

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702scottc wrote:Blaming the heel toe shifter for these issues is typical dealer not knowing what to do. Since Honda had never officially said there is an issue with syncro drum engagement the dealer is pretty much on their own. If the aftermarket shifter was even remotely to blame then evertime they sold a floorboard setup you would have to sign a disclaimer stating this may void the warranty. The 6 cylinder engines has issues from the late 80's thru 98 when they upgraded the shift forks, to little to late. Now here we are with the 1800 showing similar issues with 15 yrs of production and they haven't corrected it? Could have been fixed on the factory floor during final engine assy.with a Dremel tool.
They fixed in the 2014 model year.It should have been done a lot sooner though.
If I'da known it would last this long,I'da taken better care of it.
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Have you made a decision on how to repair your bike? Since you are in Florida I think I would contact justwings, I looked at their site and they know exactly what needs to be done. You might also consider pulling the engine yourself and see if they will repair it out of the bike, would save quite a bit on labor cost. Engine removal is fairly strait forward. I swapped the engine on my 1500 last year for the same problem, I had it out of the frame in a weekend in my carport. I doubt the 1800 engine is any harder to remove.

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702scottc wrote:Have you made a decision on how to repair your bike? Since you are in Florida I think I would contact justwings, I looked at their site and they know exactly what needs to be done. You might also consider pulling the engine yourself and see if they will repair it out of the bike, would save quite a bit on labor cost. Engine removal is fairly strait forward. I swapped the engine on my 1500 last year for the same problem, I had it out of the frame in a weekend in my carport. I doubt the 1800 engine is any harder to remove.
You need some special tools to get the motor out of an 1800.I believe it's around $400 for the tools alone.
If I'da known it would last this long,I'da taken better care of it.
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I pulled the engine out of my 1800 trike with no special tools. You may need some if you go into the engine. If you do pull the engine, take llots of pictures of how parts go together and how the wires hook up and are routed. Pictures really helped even though I have the shop manual. While it is apart, be sure you replace the air filter and any hoses that show any damage. Go slow, do not hurry.

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One more note; you will need lots of room to lay out all the parts that come off. The shop manual is a must.

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How do I adjust my shifter on my GL1800? It seems to be to high.
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Brentt4 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:19 am
How do I adjust my shifter on my GL1800? It seems to be to high.
Are you referring to the OEM shift linkage. If so, it really is not adjustable because its splines are indexed. However, some have, but report back that their efforts turned into not being a good idea.

Have you considered an aftermarket shift kit like a heal-toe-shifter ???

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Brentt4 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:19 am
How do I adjust my shifter on my GL1800? It seems to be to high.
At the bottom of this page is a kit.

http://www.dhsracing.com/GL-1800.htm



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