Overtightened rear wheel nuts


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Overtightened rear wheel nuts

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I replaced the rear tire on my bike this weekend and had a heck of a time getting the wheel nuts broken loose. Why shops don't use anti sieze on studs and use a torque wrench is a mystery? The tire was replaced at a local Honda dealer 4 yrs ago, the nuts should have broken loose easily. I had it in gear with my son standing on the rear brake and still lifted the bike off the ground twice before they popped, crazy tight. I have always used anti sieze on studs of every car and truck I've owned and customers cars as well. Needless to say the studs are lubed and torqued to specs. Just another reason to fix it yourself...



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Re: Overtightened rear wheel nuts

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You have been on the same tire for 4 years?? :shock: How many miles on the tire and what is the condition of the tire?!?
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The tire was 3 years old when I purchased the bike last year. Its down to the wear indicators in the center but otherwise in good shape. It had 14 thousand miles when I pulled it. I`ve never gotten that much out of a rear tire on any bike I`ve ever owned, usually 10 to 11 thousand is it. It had the counteract beads in it and I put 2 oz of new ones when I mounted the tire. It was a Bridgestone and thats what is on it now.

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The Gold Wing service manual does not indicate that anti-seize should be applied to the lug bolts. If you should put anti-seize on your lug bolts then the factory torque should be disregarded. I am not saying to not torque your lug nuts. I am saying that with anti-seize on your lug studs that the factory torque value is no longer correct, because that value is for a dry lug stud & nut.

The lug nuts you removed were over torqued. If they had been torqued correctly they should have released normally.

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I don't consider myself a lightweight. But, I have a piece of pipe that I slide over the end of the handle of my ratchet to use a a "cheater". The torque for the lugs is supposed to be 80 ftlb.

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soontobeone wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:10 pm
If the lug nuts you removed were over torqued, I would have replaced them with new ones. If they had been torqued correctly they should have released normally.
Normally isn't necessarily easy. Torqued to 80 lbs and in a bad position, they can be difficult to remove. Not so bad if you have another pair of hands available to help.
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I have a 36" 1/2" drive breaker bar and that's what I used. Easy to get to just too tight. I had my son helping me as well. They broke loose but took a lot of grunt.. they had a lot of surface oxidation on the threads so it's just another reason why cleaning and antisieze is the way to go. Everyone has their own opinion regarding thread lube, This is mine.

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Post by Wingsconsin »

The dealerships use the air driven impact driver to put them on..
I doubt any of the newer techs know how to use a torque wrench or even bother.
Tight is tight ..right ?
Except some of those shop guns can torque over 100 lbs easy with a load of air behind it -- :o
I had to use some considerable force the first time I removed my rear wheel - I have an air gun - but elect to not use it on the Wing
A 1/2" drive rachet works just fine ..
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I had my rear tire off the other day when I was installing my Centramatic Balancer. I had a heck of a time with the lug nuts too. It must be the nature of the beast because I torqued the lug nuts last time and I did not over tighten them.

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I've had TOO many brake rotors on various cars warp because of over-torqued lug nuts.

Anytime my car is at a shop and had its wheels off, the first thing I do when I get home is re-torque the lug nuts to 100 ft-lb. Sometimes they're at 60 ft-lb, sometimes more than I can measure (180 ft-lb).



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