GL1800 trys to stall


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GL1800 trys to stall

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Hi I'm brand new, just joined a few days ago, I just a couple weeks ago bought a 2006 GL1800 Goldwing with 35000 miles and I'm having a problem, it is slow to respond when turning the throttle, it's like a stutter sometimes when it's cold but mostly after it warms up, I have almost dumped the bike several times due to this, just the other day I missed a turn and had to make a U turn to the left and when I gave it the gas it almost shut off and when this happened I slammed my left foot down on the pavement almost breaking my foot, still sore as a matter of fact, but so much for my foot it will heal but yet to figure out what's causing the bike to act this way, a couple times it has shut off as if you turned the switch off, so far very disappointed in the bike due to this, I just talked to Long shore cycles in Florence Al they told they have heard of this only a couple times and did say fuel treatment with injector cleaner may be the answer, I will try this to see if it helps out, also the engine or the trans makes a strange whining noise, and it's almost like there is slack in the trans and makes noise when I give it gas and then let off, hope this in normal for Goldwing's and I did not buy someone else's problems.
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I think I would contact another dealer and see if they are willing to troubleshoot the problem. Several things come to mind, bad 02sensor, perhaps there is dirt in the injectors, maybe something in the ECM is acting up.

Why did the previous owner sell the bike? Is there a bad electrical connection, check connections at the battery, and check all ground connections. Make sure they are tight and have good clean connections. Pay special attention to the ground from the battery.

Have you had the battery checked and load tested. Is it original to the 2006 Wing? Probably not the cause but worth the time to make sure the battery and connections are good. You can pull the battery and take it to most auto parts stores for a free load test.

Also probably not related but have you changed all the fluids yet? Always good thing to do when you get a used bike.
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Sounds like some good advice, I'll try to check the battery with load tester and also check for bad grounds, not sure about the battery as to where it's the original one or not, but also a good idea to change all fluids. It's a good start. Thanks Harvey for taking time to help me out.
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Could also be a vacuum leak. Check vacuum hoses.
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Thanks bstig60 I'll will also check for leak, that's another good idea.
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My 1500 did the same thing when I first got it and the problem was a leaking vacuum line. Good luck in locating the problem.
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Fuel system cleaner may indeed help the stuttering. Get a can of Seafoam and use twice the recommended amount for a few tanks. If that corrects the problem,
As far as the whine, the newer 2006 and up have a heavier alternator. A lot of them whine at higher rpm's. My 2012 sure does.
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cihilb wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:26 pm Fuel system cleaner may indeed help the stuttering. Get a can of Seafoam and use twice the recommended amount for a few tanks. If that corrects the problem,
As far as the whine, the newer 2006 and up have a heavier alternator. A lot of them whine at higher rpm's. My 2012 sure does.
Seafoam may indeed help with the hesitation on adding throttle, but don't use twice the recommended amount, use 1/2 the can on a full tank and then add the rest of the can the next fill up. Repeat if things haven't improved.
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bstig60 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:41 pm
cihilb wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:26 pm Fuel system cleaner may indeed help the stuttering. Get a can of Seafoam and use twice the recommended amount for a few tanks. If that corrects the problem,
As far as the whine, the newer 2006 and up have a heavier alternator. A lot of them whine at higher rpm's. My 2012 sure does.
Seafoam may indeed help with the hesitation on adding throttle, but don't use twice the recommended amount, use 1/2 the can on a full tank and then add the rest of the can the next fill up. Repeat if things haven't improved.
Right from the Seafoam website

For routine fuel system (gas tank to engine) maintenance, one can of Sea Foam Motor Treatment treats up to 16 gallons of gas or diesel fuel.
When greater cleaning is needed, add more Sea Foam – the more you add to fuel, the better it cleans!
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I found out a long time ago that using the recommended amount of Seafoam doesn't do much if any good. Using it as I described above really works wonders. I have been using it in both my bikes and cars for years and it does a great job of cleaning up dirty carbs and injectors.
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Thanks cihilb it's well worth a try
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Thanks Bill for your concern and help
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I use Startron Starbrite. An ounce in every other tank. That said, its fuel injection so it should not have carburetor-like problems. I don't think that either Startron or Seafoam will correct your problem. They won't hurt, but you better concentrate on a vacuum leak. The PO sold it for a reason.
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you might try resetting the ECM. It may help and it certainly cannot hurt. If you are not familiar with how to do this it's very easy. When your bike is dead cold start the engine giving no throttle. Let it run until the fans start up. Turn off your motor. The ECM is now reset. During the warm up do not touch the throttle at all. Let it run alone.
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Viper - did you get this sorted? Let us know, as it adds to the knowledge base, and helps us all with knowing what can possibly cause what.
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I have not completely solved the problem but so far the sea foam seems to be helping, maybe after a couple more tanks of gas with sea foam added it will be solved. Thanks everyone for all the advice, Lots of good people on GoldwingDocs.
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OK its me again about the 2006 Gl1800 trying to stall, or maybe I should say it has a hesitation or slow to respond to the throttle being applied, I just posted the other day that the bike was doing better after a couple tanks of gas with sea foam, with that being true on a cold start up or just after warming up, it seems to be getting worse after riding for a while and the bike is now at a normal operating temperature, just say I've ridden for 20 miles and stopped for a drink and shut the bike off for 10 minutes, now I start the bike and instantly notice the hesitation when turning the throttle, this will clear up and act normal after about 5 minutes. I have noticed some others have complained on other sites about this problem with 2012-13 Gl1800s but it seems that no one has figured it out. Maybe someone reading on this site has had the same problem and figured out what is causing this, however I do hope that no one on Goldwing docs has such a problem, it's not the end of the world and the sky's not falling but the problem is enough to drive me crazy because I'm very much a hands on guy and not much I can't figure out but I'm stumped on this one. Thanks in advance for any advice.
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I am a novice with fuel injection but....
I had a '95 Mercedes E300 which has a 5 cylinder turbo diesel engine. This engine had zero pickup. I brought it to a very good Mercedes mechanic and he rebuilt the fuel pump. Voila! It seems that the fuel injection system requires a very high pressure to operate efficiently. Sorry but this is as much as I know. Could it be a fuel pump/system issue?


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