Seat comfort


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liteship
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Seat comfort

Post by liteship »



Hi

I have a 2002 goldwing. I really enjoy the bike but i can only sit on it for a couple of hours before i'm extremely uncomfortable in my legs and backside. Is this a seat issue or are there ways of improving your ride position for longer distance driving. :?:


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Re: Seat comfort

Post by thrasherg »

I have a 2004 and had similar issues to you, I fitted a back rest and that helped a lot, a new rear shock also helped (as did loosing a lot of excess body weight!! Diet).. I still cannot ride the bike for more than about 6 hours in a day before It is too painfull to continue.. A better seat might help, but I seldom need to ride for more than 6 hours so I have left the seat alone.. I strongly recomend trying a back rest..

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Re: Seat comfort

Post by tfdeputydawg »

I need a break after about 1 1/2hrs anyway. So, not a problem for me!
One way for improvement is to get q $20 gel material seat pad from Wal Mart. Fits very nicely on a Wings seat. Consider one for the passenger also.
From there the price goes up drasically for custom seats, with and without heat.
google motorcycle seats-there are many brands out there. Road Sofa seems to be one of the most popular but, there are many others to review
flw
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Post by flw »

Drivers backrest is a sure way to add seat time for your rides. It maynot get you as far as you wish but alot farther than your are going now. Mine added 2 hours to my ride. They are also alot less expensive than changing the seat.

If a new/better seat is what you are leaning towards, a "road sofa" is highly praised by other people here. I have a stock seat.

Good luck.
gareva1
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by gareva1 »

I find just adjusting my position for a little while helps...if I don't have a passenger on back, I'll, pick up and sit slightly on the higher part of the passenger seat for a little while, then move back...also rolling my hips up so I'm sitting more vertical instead of on my rear helps too...I use seat beads, but that doesn't help much for this condition, mostly for heat/sweat.
Brad1951
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by Brad1951 »

Hi, I had the same problem you have-after just a couple hours of riding my butt would be getting sore and would have some major tightening in my upper back (between my shoulder blades). I never had the upper back problem on my 2000 -1500cc so did some comparing of the 2 bikes to see why the problem with my 2008-1800cc. Major difference was the handle bar reach/height between the two.Even with my long arms (5'11") I discovered my arms were almost fully extended when riding on the 1800-the solution was to install the Kuryakyn handle bar riser kit-worth every penny!!When installing you have many options of how you can mount them so it should suit just about anyone. My mounting choice moved the handle bars up 1" and back toward me 1"-what a BIG difference in riding comfort now-no more sore shoulders!! My next problem is what I call my "bony butt"-after a couple hours my butt would really be bothering me. I tried numerous seat cushions and found the gel ones to be too hard and most all the others would be too squishy when filled with air that felt like you were on a squirmy water bottle. While at one of our Goldwing Rallies I had the luck to run into a great guy that has started up his own company and developed his own seat cushion (used to work for one of the Major named brand seat cushion companies). I purchased a seat cushion from him for less than $100 and has been the best money spent!!Unlike other cushions, when this one is inflated PROPERLY it feels like there is hardly any air in it.The key here is no more "squishy" feeling and the design of the cushion takes the pressure off your "bony butt" for a MAJOR difference in riding comfort. The cushions can be found at Bikecushions.com-check it out Safe riding to you
Brad1951
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by Brad1951 »

Hi, the correct web site for the cushion is http://www.bikecushion.com/ ( I put an "s" on "cushion" and it won't take you to the site-sorry)
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by Ed Z »

I have been using this for many years....

http://www.bikercushion.com/Medium-Crui ... medium.htm

do read the instructions... It is important to not over inflate or you'll feel like you are sitting on a greased seat... Start out with a little air and work up slowly from there...
rexter
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by rexter »

I had the same issues, as do alot of riders, with extended riding on the stock seat. I rode with a Comfort Max Gel Pad for over a year. We recently made the decision to invest in a Russell Day Long custom seat. We just got our new seat this past week and haven't had an opportunity to take a good long ride yet. RDL builds a seat to YOUR dimensions. But to do this you have to send your stock seat in. They remove the existing seat from your seat pan and rebuilt the seat completely. There are many seat builders out there. Hartco, Diamond, Ultimate, Mustang and Corbin to name a few. We looked at them all and went with RDL. Remember, It is an investment in your comfort.
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by cwhonda »

My 2001 came with this wooden ball mat. I was going to take it off but the guy who sold me the bike was right it really is comfortable!!! I have done two 1k + rides no complaints.

On rereading the comments I had overlooked the "Backrest" I never had one until I got my 01 wing It is amazing.

Off subject a little.I have a '87 wing with a bad seat , i am just fixing this up for sale, but it has a bad seat any ideas on a cheap fix covers or what? It is uncomfortable to ride in its present condition so not too far off topic.
Thanks guys
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Roadworksguy
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by Roadworksguy »

I found the AirHawk seat cushion great for bum comfort but it does insulate you from the seat heat on cold days. Highway pegs mostly help with knee discomfort however I only use one foot on a highway peg at a time; otherwise you are doing uncomfortable splits around the wide fairing which adds more pressure to your butt. The change of position when using the highway pegs this way also helps alleviate back and butt comfort. My lower back still gets tired after about 3 hours so I am taking some of the advice on this forum and will be trying a backrest next summer.
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by Virginia Beach Wing »

cwhonda wrote:My 2001 came with this wooden ball mat. I was going to take it off but the guy who sold me the bike was right it really is comfortable!!! I have done two 1k + rides no complaints.
I love my beaded seat gets rid of Monkey Butt and I can ride all day no problem
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by myYellowbird »

Got my 2010 35 days ago seems like the seat is getting better i used a good leather conditioner weekly. Hoping the seat gets better in time. I have the cushions from walmart used them on my last bike not bad for the money. Looking for a backrest. Has for highway pegs not sure if i'll need them, seems like i wide wrap around for my legs not sure if i could get to the brake fast if needed. Was worried the wing would not be comfortable with out footboards highway pegs, but i am amazed on just how great of a ride we have. Any extras will be a bonus. ;)
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by 2008retiredplb »

I was having trouble with back pain on my 2001 GW. My chiropractor looked at me while seated in normal riding position and found I was reaching to far to the hand grips. I installed handlebar risers and moved the grips in about an inch, back about an inch and 1/2 and up about 1/2 inch and it solved my problem. I also moved my Utopia backrest a little to the front, and between both of these, it took most of the pain away. I then purchased a 2009 GW and had a Wing Soft seat modification done, to the factory seat, at Wing Ding and changed the foam in the seat (driver and passenger), moved the passenger back about an inch and changed the passenger back rest foam (that straightened her back to sit more upright) while still maintaining the factory heated seats. She was able to ride twice as long before stopping after that.
Cost of mod was around $550. Still cheaper than replacing the seat at $1200 to $1500 and many would not have heated seat after changing. Have also found that if you disable any part of the factory heated seat, you lose the heated seat and the heated hand grips also. So before you do any changing of the seat decide if you want to have heated grips and seat.

Another note about handlebar risers. Don't buy anything from Kuryakyn, they are a company that will not stand behind their products. Read my posts on this board and the GWRRA board about how they treated me when I had a problem with chrome bubbling on a trunk rack. Their customer service is a (expensive for me) joke. I am trying to get people to let Kuryakyn know we, as customers, will not support a company that will not stand behind their products.
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Lefty
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by Lefty »

As to risers, look into MBL risers. I bought them direct from Maurice, the owner at MBL, and they make all the difference.
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by myYellowbird »

I have since but a back rest on what a difference so far my back pain is gone and i can stay on the wing a lot longer now. Talk with another wing owner he put some memory foam in under is leather. Said it was easy to do may try this but backrest made the difference for me.
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Re: Seat comfort

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Virginia Beach Wing wrote:
cwhonda wrote:My 2001 came with this wooden ball mat. I was going to take it off but the guy who sold me the bike was right it really is comfortable!!! I have done two 1k + rides no complaints.
I love my beaded seat gets rid of Monkey Butt and I can ride all day no problem

Where did you get your beaded seat cover and what part/model # was it?
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Re: Seat comfort

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I do not know !. tomorrow however I am getting my bike out screw the "rain and a chance of snow" I have cabin fever way too bad need a ride. I will check it to see if there are any manufacturers names on it. I have my senior moments but I know i have seen it advertised, will try a search. I will start with Ebay that usually gives me a start. If I succeed will answer tomorrow.
finally I can TRY to do some in return for all the help i have received on this site, thanks for it all!!
colin
Bingo!!
The link below is from Ebay. I used "beaded seat" to search, there are quire a few specifically for 1800 GW
Hope this helps !!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GOLDWING ... t_491wt_75
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Very awesome and thanks for taking the time to do that. I have seen many on the internet but sometimes certain types are a little better than others for the same money and wanted to make sure I dont go wasting it!!

Enjoy the ride!!
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Post by cwhonda »

The tag on my bead seat is beadrider.com
Maybe you can get more answers if this is the best but it works fine for me
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Re: Seat comfort

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cwhonda wrote:The tag on my bead seat is beadrider.com
Maybe you can get more answers if this is the best but it works fine for me
That works great! I was on their website and it looks good. Hope to order one in the near future, it gets a little warm in Hawaii and would be nice for cooling off!

Thanks
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by Virginia Beach Wing »

joshellison wrote:
Virginia Beach Wing wrote:
cwhonda wrote:My 2001 came with this wooden ball mat. I was going to take it off but the guy who sold me the bike was right it really is comfortable!!! I have done two 1k + rides no complaints.
I love my beaded seat gets rid of Monkey Butt and I can ride all day no problem

Where did you get your beaded seat cover and what part/model # was it?
I got mine at Walmart...Was one for a car. Got some fishing line...Cut it down to fit the seat and restrung it around the edges. When I use it I tuck the back part under the butt rest and it does not move. When I get to my destination I toss it in a storage area of my choice so someone does not walk off with it.
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by beachbuddy0253 »

2008retiredplb wrote:I was having trouble with back pain on my 2001 GW. My chiropractor looked at me while seated in normal riding position and found I was reaching to far to the hand grips. I installed handlebar risers and moved the grips in about an inch, back about an inch and 1/2 and up about 1/2 inch and it solved my problem. I also moved my Utopia backrest a little to the front, and between both of these, it took most of the pain away. I then purchased a 2009 GW and had a Wing Soft seat modification done, to the factory seat, at Wing Ding and changed the foam in the seat (driver and passenger), moved the passenger back about an inch and changed the passenger back rest foam (that straightened her back to sit more upright) while still maintaining the factory heated seats. She was able to ride twice as long before stopping after that.
Cost of mod was around $550. Still cheaper than replacing the seat at $1200 to $1500 and many would not have heated seat after changing. Have also found that if you disable any part of the factory heated seat, you lose the heated seat and the heated hand grips also. So before you do any changing of the seat decide if you want to have heated grips and seat.

Another note about handlebar risers. Don't buy anything from Kuryakyn, they are a company that will not stand behind their products. Read my posts on this board and the GWRRA board about how they treated me when I had a problem with chrome bubbling on a trunk rack. Their customer service is a (expensive for me) joke. I am trying to get people to let Kuryakyn know we, as customers, will not support a company that will not stand behind their products.
after just a year, i agree. watch out for the cheap chrome jobs from kuryakyn !!!!!!!!
CaptLen
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by CaptLen »

I felt strain in my shoulders- like I was leaning in to reach grips- got riser kit from Kuryakin (about $70) and never had time to install so had dealer do it (about $150) and it helps. Have not tried backrest yet but I see many have replied that helps, so the two of us may be doing that soon
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Re: Seat comfort

Post by toanogreen »

I had a 1500 and put an Ultimate Seat on it and fell in love. Best seat I have ever sat in. They say you don't sit on it, you sit "in" it, and it's true.
Yes, it was pricey, but it was worth it. I sold the 1500 and purchased an 1800. The first thing I did was buy an Ultimate Seat for it. Yes, it took another pretty penny from me, but it's worth it. I haven't even been out on it yet (weather and work schedule), but I know it will be as comfortable as the other. I could tell the difference when I installed it and rode around the block. The OEM seat was never comfortable when I test rode bikes, so I know the investment is going to pay off. And I have always had a back rest on all of my bikes. That really makes a difference in comfort and back stress.


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