Rear brake Pulses


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Rear brake Pulses

Post by jist@charter.net » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:48 am



I have a 2013 1800.When the Bike is hot. I mean heat soaked. 100 degrees and above, When I hit the rear brake, The brake pedal pulses or bounces. It doesn't do it every time. It has more to do with ambient temps than brake generated heat. My local Honda dealer is confused about this issue. It is NOT a warped rotor or bad brake pads as they have been replaced with no fix. Now the Dealer has turned in a case with Honda. Honda has responded and says that some Goldwing's just do that and it cant be fixed. LOL It has been doing this since it was new and I have complained about this several times. Now that the bike is out of warranty the local shop has decided that they can just start changing parts. "At my expense" They have many Ideas like changing out the brake fluid $325.Swapping out the proportion valve $185. So far they have suggested parts and labor totaling $2000 dollars. Any Ideas???? All input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance



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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by jist@charter.net » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:51 am

Oh! one more thing. The bike HAS had the Update for the Warranty recall but the pulsing was occurring before the recall and continues to today

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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by GoldWingrGreg » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:04 pm

The common complaint is "it feels like I was braking on a cobble stone" roadway. Could that be what you are describing. I've have the cobblestone feel on my Wing and instantly knew it was not something that can be fixed "in the field." In other words, it's something Honda engineers must fix, or redesign, because it is not something a mechanic can fix.

I too felt it years ago one time on my Wing, and I don't recall feeling it in the peddle, but it makes sense that it was probably there. The issue I too am describing will only happen on hot days. Some have tried various repairs ... replacing pads, rotors, various bleeding methods believing that they have fixed it. However, it can be an intermittent problem and they too eventually find out that under certain conditions, their symptom is still there.

Honda will recommend that the Wing be operated as designed ... use both brakes. When both brakes are used together, the symptom will not occur.

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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by AZgl1800 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:42 pm

and it only happens when the rear brake is applied first.

as soon as you touch the front brake handle, the symptom disappears.
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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by cihilb » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:10 am

Rocky Bleed. Air is trapped in the high point on the brake system . Standard bleeding sequence will not purge this air. The Rocky Bleed involves opening a connection at the top of the system to purge this "bubble" of air.
I tried to attach the document but the site won't accept a .doc file.

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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by baumedagn » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:36 pm

Mine did it too after having the update completed. As cihilb says Rocky Bleed will take care of the problem.

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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by cihilb » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:14 pm

I've been trying to attach a DOC file and keep getting an error that it is an incorrect file format.
Just how do i attach this file?

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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by jist@charter.net » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:07 pm

I'm not sure how to attach a file on this forum. Can you copy a paste the text or is it to large?

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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by tamathumper » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:40 pm

When drafting a reply to the thread, look below the box you're typing in. There's a tab called "Options" on the left, and immediately to the right of it there is a tab called "Attachments".

You can only attach file types that are pre-approved to keep viruses and malware out of the system. Valid files will appear in the file open dialog. Basically text and image files.
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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by jist@charter.net » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:33 pm

I'm interested in the Rocky Bleed Method. I have searched YouTube and found no results. I also searched the internet through Google and found nothing that I can use. Can someone post it here or send to me using my email address. (jist@charter.net

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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by WingAdmin » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:06 pm

cihilb wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:14 pm
I've been trying to attach a DOC file and keep getting an error that it is an incorrect file format.
Just how do i attach this file?
Send it to me at info (at) goldwingdocs.com and I can convert it and post it.

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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by WingAdmin » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:28 pm

You can find it online in the Manuals section:

/Manuals.asp?type=GL1800

Look under the "Honda Goldwing Reference" section, you'll see it as "Solving brake shudder on GL1800".

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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by cihilb » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:09 am

WingAdmin wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:28 pm
You can find it online in the Manuals section:

/Manuals.asp?type=GL1800

Look under the "Honda Goldwing Reference" section, you'll see it as "Solving brake shudder on GL1800".


I'm glad you could convert the document I sent you. That will be a big help to others.

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Re: Rear brake Pulses

Post by tj66wa » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:53 am

So it only happens for a few moments on first brake application ? If constantly happening could it be a warped brake rotor?



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