I GOT THE WOBBLE


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I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by POPPY'S WING » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:09 pm



Hello, just got back from Wing Ding and other places. I rode the Dragon also.Anyhow, about 400 miles into the trip,I noticed a wobble around 35 mph.Would like to know why suddenly it started this. Any replies appreciated.



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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by MikeB » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:46 pm

Tire wear. Pretty much does it to all the Wings.
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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by tamathumper » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:55 pm

Did you notice it when decelerating through 30-40 mph?
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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by POPPY'S WING » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:21 pm

Yes. That's correct.

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by Andy Cote » Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:56 am

okay, bear with me. It's your new seat. :?

Wobble is affected by tire wear, front or rear; bearing condition; tire pressure; road conditions; but also by how tightly you grip the handlebars. You are in a different position and more comfortable and relaxed. You are likely using a lighter grip and don't even notice.

Check your tires of course and maybe the stem bearings. Might need a forkbrace or more serious suspension upgrades. But hold on loosely and don't let go. Uh oh, song troll on my head.
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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by POPPY'S WING » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:08 am

Thanks for the reply. My tires have 7000 miles on them. The wobble began a day or more before I got the seat. The tires are E4s. I stay on top of the air pressure. I had my suspension set on 12.

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by Andy Cote » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:18 am

Just a thought.

How do the E4's look? I am ready for a front and E4 is a consideration. I have 7000 on the Bridgestone and not really liking it. Already changed the rear to Bridgestone Driveguard run flat. When I bought my 2015 with 2000 miles, it had a bit of wobble with original Bridgestones. Previous owner did not keep good track of air pressure and light was on when I bought it. I jacked the pressures up, added tire pressure sensors, superbrace and Heli-bars. This took away the wobble but at 6000 replaced the rear for a better ride.
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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by POPPY'S WING » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:06 pm

I've had no problems with E4s,until this trip. If that's what's causing it.They don't show cupping. I've been through a lot of twisties on this trip. I'm not an aggressive rider.Thinking about going Double Darkside.

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by AZgl1800 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:27 pm

I don't know if it is relevant or not, but my 1800 has a Michelin RF on the back, and used to have an E3 on the front. It now has an Avon RoadRider rear tire on the front...

it also has Traxxon springs front and rear...

it has never, ever, exhibited a wobble for me.... the original E3 on the rear also did not cause a wobble.

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by POPPY'S WING » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:34 pm

Thanks for the reply AZgl1800. What do you think about going Double Dark side.

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by Andy Cote » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:46 am

Regarding Double Darkside.

I had the Battlax on the front of my GL1500. I liked it but like some other users, found cracks in the bottom of the tread. Wasn't comfortable with that. Was not that old and had maybe 10,000 miles but otherwise looked like it was halfway used up. Most recent posts on this tire seem favorable though and the cost per mile, even at 10k, is very reasonable.

I've seen posts of catastrophic failures of the Avons but not tried one.

I had Michelin Pilots on the GL1500 before coming to the Darkside. Considering a Pilot rear for the front.

Still watching other people's experiences with front tires.

BTW. Rear for me was down to Yokohama Avid Envigor ZP and Bridgestone Driveguard ZP. Looked pretty even on all posts. Went with Driveguard. Previous experience on a couple friends' GL1800 was Michelin Alpin but no longer available.
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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by tinwacker » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:29 am

my 04 did the same thing till I changed the neck bearings to ( All Balls ) kit

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by nitefuzz » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:50 pm

My 09 had the wobble when deaccelerating between 35 and 40, changed my E3's out with E4's and the wobble was instantly gone. The old E3's were cupped I put up with it for over a year because there was to much tread life left. Finally made the decision to change it and am very happy. Have over 8000 miles on the E4's and the tread still looks like around 70% left yet. Love the tires.

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by Asphaltmaniac » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:23 pm

I had the wobble, a new fr tire fixed (temporarily) it.. ;)

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by tinwacker » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:25 am

I've had this problem with old tires and new ones as well, The problem stopped once I installed all Balls neck bearings, After taking the old bearing out I could clearly see a path the ball bearing make in the race, That path is all it takes to make it wobble, One word of caution Follow direction for the torque speck. The all balls I have installed have been in my bike for over 100 thousand miles
I just looked at my records and I installed them at 159 thousand bike now has 331 thousand Good investment

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by POPPY'S WING » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:54 am

Thanks,good to know.

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by chef paul » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:56 am

I had e3's on my 04 and always had a wobble, i changed to e4's and put on centramatic balancers and removed all weights from the wheel, have 6000 on these and still no wobble and no cupping, they still look rather new, best tire wear I have ever had. just guessing they are going to go 15000 miles or maybe more if nothing happens. Took awhile to get used to the centramatic balancers there is a little whurring noise and now the bike feels like it is stuck to the road like on rails. Sure feels a lot better in the rain now.

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by Asphaltmaniac » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:25 pm

Asphaltmaniac wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:23 pm
I had the wobble, a new fr tire fixed (temporarily) it.. ;)
Update..I just installed all balls tapered roller bearings. Steering feels better, but will it stop the dreaded wobble? I'll know by mid year.

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by mikemajor » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:14 pm

Had the same problem with my 06, then the dealer told me to increase air pressure in front tire to 41 psi. Solved the problem instantly.
I have tried Dunlop and Metzeller tires but came Back to Bridgestones cause they last me longer, I average about 21 to 24 thousand kilometers per set. I change both front and rear at the same time.

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by POPPY'S WING » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:25 pm

Thanks,I'll keep that in mind.

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by Gabriel » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:36 pm

The front forks on an 1800 are like noodles and the problem is caused from tire cupping caused by the front end.
I have to say that you got further than anyone I have seen before this issue showed up.
I fought this issue ten years ago and finally figured out what caused it, it usually shows up first when riding with no hands at those speeds and progressively gets worse until the tire is changed.
I replaced the head brgs. with tapered rollers, rebuilt the complete front end with all new parts (bushings and seals) and the only way i was able to get lots of miles on a tire was to run a rear bias tire on the front, I sold the bike before the problem ever showed up again so I don't know how long that rear tire lasted before it started again if ever...

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE

Post by POPPY'S WING » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:43 pm

Thanks. Did you buy another Goldwing? Just curious.

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Re: I GOT THE WOBBLE I'm not sop sure of the tire being the problem

Post by tinwacker » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:49 am

Gabriel wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:36 pm
The front forks on an 1800 are like noodles and the problem is caused from tire cupping caused by the front end.
I have to say that you got further than anyone I have seen before this issue showed up.
I fought this issue ten years ago and finally figured out what caused it, it usually shows up first when riding with no hands at those speeds and progressively gets worse until the tire is changed.
I replaced the head brgs. with tapered rollers, rebuilt the complete front end with all new parts (bushings and seals) and the only way i was able to get lots of miles on a tire was to run a rear bias tire on the front, I sold the bike before the problem ever showed up again so I don't know how long that rear tire lasted before it started again if ever...



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