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I have a small nail in my rear tire. Been having a slow leak for months and couldn't find it. This afternoon, I got down and did a close inspection and found the problem.. Has anyone used a tire repair plug while using dynabeads for balance?


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If you have 2 oz of Dyna Beads in the tire, it should be okay.

If however, you sense a bit of imbalance, just add another oz of Dyna Beads and ride on.
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Bill

I might be concerned if you use those rope plugs that are lathered with glue. I've never had success with those anyway. I have had success with the mushroom type plugs on a couple cars and I now carry that kit on the bike.

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Patch it on the inside.
Get rid of the beads(in both tires
Use https://www.ride-on.com/
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tfdeputydawg wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:57 pm Patch it on the inside.
Get rid of the beads(in both tires
Use https://www.ride-on.com/
I have to ask, Why get rid of the beads?
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MikeB wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:50 pm
tfdeputydawg wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:57 pm Patch it on the inside.
Get rid of the beads(in both tires
Use https://www.ride-on.com/
I have to ask, Why get rid of the beads?
Not needed with RideOn. It is a sealant as well as a balancer.
Been using it for many years.
RideOn has formulas for about anything on/off road.
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tfdeputydawg wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:15 am
MikeB wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:50 pm
tfdeputydawg wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:57 pm Patch it on the inside.
Get rid of the beads(in both tires
Use https://www.ride-on.com/
I have to ask, Why get rid of the beads?
Not needed with RideOn. It is a sealant as well as a balancer.
Been using it for many years.
RideOn has formulas for about anything on/off road.
I understand what you are saying now.
Remove the tire from the wheel and patch the hole, then use RideOn.
Since the tire will have to be removed to install the patch, the beads have to be removed anyway. Since the beads are not compatible with RideOn, leave them out. Once the tire is reinstalled, use RideOn to balance the tire and help prevent future leaks.
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I have never used RideOn ,

but it does have an excellent advantage.

In your case, with the little tiny nail, all you would have needed to do, is remove it and RideOn provided that RideOn sealant was already in the tire.

I have Dyna Beads in my tires, been using it for years, bought a bag of the stuff....
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Thanks, guys! I have TMPS in both my bikes. I don't want to risk ruining a sensor with the Ride On product.. Has any one had experience with this?
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Replace the tire,I myself have never been a fan of sealant or patching/plugging a motorcycle tire. You only have two wheels between yourself and the pavement,why risk it? Just my two cents worth..
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I iwll probably plug it or patch it since it is a small nail and should get me through the winter riding season.. I have an extended trip planned for next spring and had planned on replacing the tires before the trip. Thanks for all the advice.... I will do some research on the Ride On product.
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MikeB wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:50 pm
I have to ask, Why get rid of the beads?
Because a tire is not designed to have beads in them.
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GoldWingrGreg wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:15 pm
MikeB wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:50 pm
I have to ask, Why get rid of the beads?
Because a tire is not designed to have beads in them.
They are not designed to have liquids in them either, but that has been ignored for over a century.

say what you want, beads work great.
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bstig60 wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:46 am Thanks, guys! I have TMPS in both my bikes. I don't want to risk ruining a sensor with the Ride On product.. Has any one had experience with this?
Ride-On is TPMS friendly but is not recommended if your sensors are not sealed. Although using Ride-On with these types of sensors does not always create issues, we as the manufacturer of Ride-On do not recommend using our product in applications with TPMS systems without potted electronics. Even moisture contained in the compressed air can enter the electronics and over time create issues not related to any tire sealant. We recommend that you check with your dealer or manufacturer to determine whether your TPMS sensor has potted electronics and batteries. We do not recommend the use of Ride-On in certain late model factory CVO Harley Davidson motorcycles, 2009, 2010, 2012, and Newer Honda Gold Wings and certain KTM 1190 and 1290 Adventures as the sensors on those bikes are not potted (hermetically sealed)!
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AZgl1800 wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:49 pm
GoldWingrGreg wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:15 pm
MikeB wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:50 pm
I have to ask, Why get rid of the beads?
Because a tire is not designed to have beads in them.
They are not designed to have liquids in them either, but that has been ignored for over a century.

say what you want, beads work great.
I have to agree, the beads do work great. Due to my tire pressure sensors, I will pass on the Ride on product at this point in time..... But may decide to try it later on. For right now, I will patch the tire on the inside and then put the beads back in and maybe add another ounce as I am getting a little cupping in the rear tire.
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I used a mushroom patch/plug to repair the rear tire. Took a short 60 mile ride on it yesterday and seems to have done the job....
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When I bought my new Kawasaki 1400 back in 09 it came with TPMS. When I had new tires put on the dealer recommended Ride-on be put in the tires. While the bike was very smooth it did destroy the senders in the tires, They replaced them at no cost to me. So I wouldn't recommend that if you have a TPMS
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bstig60 wrote: Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:30 am I used a mushroom patch/plug to repair the rear tire. Took a short 60 mile ride on it yesterday and seems to have done the job....
friend of mine using those plugs and has never had one fail like the rope ones.
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I wouldn't use the rope plugs unless in an emergency. I have not heard of one of the mushroom plugs failing either.... Guy that did the repair said those were all he would recommend using. I will be replacing the tires before my long trip next summer anyway.
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I'm with Goldwinger365 because, other than in an emergency, I'd never trust a repaired tire on two wheels.

As far as beads go, I use them but here's a good article discussing the ups and downs of beads.https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2541 ... snake-oil/

I won't use the new fad, Ride-On. No need to add 11 ounces of liquid when a couple ounces of beads work. I've also read posts claiming Ride-On can dry up inside the wheel. But more importantly for me, I don't get how liquid solidifies so well that it stops a leak when it's ... what? ... exposed to air ... like air's not in the tire? ... so ... yeah, I don't get it nor do I trust it. I'll stick with replacing a punctured tire on a bike, balancing with beads and a repair kit for emergencies only.
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BadMonk wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:24 amI won't use the new fad, Ride-On. No need to add 11 ounces of liquid when a couple ounces of beads work. I've also read posts claiming Ride-On can dry up inside the wheel. But more importantly for me, I don't get how liquid solidifies so well that it stops a leak when it's ... what? ... exposed to air ... like air's not in the tire? ... so ... yeah, I don't get it nor do I trust it. I'll stick with replacing a punctured tire on a bike, balancing with beads and a repair kit for emergencies only.
I believe it solidifies when it comes in contact with moisture in the environment, once squeezed out of the hole in the tire, if I remember correctly.

Of course, if your air source used to fill the tire does not have an air dryer, you might be filling it with moist air, and then....

That said, Ride-On is NOT compatible with Goldwing TPMS sensors (it will destroy them), and their web site specifically warns against using it on Goldwings with TPMS.
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tfdeputydawg wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:57 pm Patch it on the inside.
Get rid of the beads(in both tires
Use https://www.ride-on.com/
Agree with patch on the inside. I used a rope plug for emergency until I got home for tire change. Otherwise you could end up with a slow leak as I did, especially if the hole is between the treads. There isn't much thickness of rubber between the treads. I won't trade my life for a short cut on a 800 pound bike ,taking a lean on a plug only. Besides they have the special inside tire patch with a plug you pull through the hole, and you only have to take rubber off one side of rim to do the patch.


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