"stuttering" during initial running


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"stuttering" during initial running

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Start bike, back out of garage, go about 1/2 mile and bike "stutters" with a rough idle. Immediately clears up and runs fine the rest of the ride. If we stop/park for 5 to 10 minutes, rough "stutter" begins and clears up immediately.

Plugs last changed August 2017 - have since added 24,000 miles but problem began problem 5 to 8000 miles ago.


Fuel has always varied.

Plugs again or a different issue?


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According to the service manual, plugs should be changed every 16K miles. Now, that being said, many have gone 50K, 60K or more on a set of plugs. It's not uncommon for a plug to fail however. What plugs did you install? What other maintenance or additions have you done lately? Look for something simple that may have caused the condition you describe. May be something as simple as a loose spark plug connection.
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Re: "stuttering" during initial running

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I could be a plug wire or a coil.
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novatz wrote: Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:48 pm Start bike, back out of garage, go about 1/2 mile and bike "stutters" with a rough idle. Immediately clears up and runs fine the rest of the ride. If we stop/park for 5 to 10 minutes, rough "stutter" begins and clears up immediately.

Plugs last changed August 2017 - have since added 24,000 miles but problem began problem 5 to 8000 miles ago.


Fuel has always varied.

Plugs again or a different issue?
What year is your bike?
How many miles are on the bike?
What plugs did you put in?
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Re: "stuttering" during initial running

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I don't bother changing spark plugs until something 'feels wrong'...

it is not the expense, they are cheap...
I just don't want to pull all that stuff off to get to them
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novatz wrote: Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:48 pm Start bike, back out of garage, go about 1/2 mile and bike "stutters" with a rough idle. Immediately clears up and runs fine the rest of the ride. If we stop/park for 5 to 10 minutes, rough "stutter" begins and clears up immediately.

Plugs last changed August 2017 - have since added 24,000 miles but problem began problem 5 to 8000 miles ago.


Fuel has always varied.

Plugs again or a different issue?
The second stutter. Does it occur the moment its started or the same as stone cold going down the road scenario?
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AZgl1800 wrote: Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:36 pm I don't bother changing spark plugs until something 'feels wrong'...

it is not the expense, they are cheap...
I just don't want to pull all that stuff off to get to them
It takes me about 30 minutes to change the plugs. I'm not sure what "stuff" you have to remove. I would rather do maintenance at my leisure than on the road when "something feels wrong" Just my .02
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Second stutter - operates the same as the first. Half mile - stutter - then okay. Doesn't always happen but frequently enough to be annoying.

BTW - plugs have now been changed, same issue.
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Re: "stuttering" during initial running

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For a reason you need to answer the questions.
There have been problems of this on certain years. The gl1800 was a 16 year run with changes in different years.


newday777 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:27 am
novatz wrote: Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:48 pm Start bike, back out of garage, go about 1/2 mile and bike "stutters" with a rough idle. Immediately clears up and runs fine the rest of the ride. If we stop/park for 5 to 10 minutes, rough "stutter" begins and clears up immediately.

Plugs last changed August 2017 - have since added 24,000 miles but problem began problem 5 to 8000 miles ago.


Fuel has always varied.

Plugs again or a different issue?
What year is your bike?
How many miles are on the bike?
What plugs did you put in?
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novatz wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:23 pm Second stutter - operates the same as the first. Half mile - stutter - then okay. Doesn't always happen but frequently enough to be annoying.

BTW - plugs have now been changed, same issue.
Its been awhile have you made any progress in figuring out this problem?
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No unfortunately. Hard to find since the closest dealer no longer has a "red certified" tech on hand. But thanks for asking.
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novatz wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:59 pm No unfortunately. Hard to find since the closest dealer no longer has a "red certified" tech on hand. But thanks for asking.
Has it gotten worse or changed in any way? You changed the plugs, did you notice any difference between them in the old set? And do you do your own air filter changes? FL is pretty moist place and I'm wondering if maybe there is excessive blow by gas being drawn through the throttle body into the cylinders. Do you do your own maintenance? If so how often do you drain the blow by hose. I also though maybe one of the 02 sensors is sending erroneous information to the ECM. Maybe check them for damaged wiring.
Hunting for more info here....
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Sorry - bike is a 2010, purchased with 14k miles < 2 years ago, now has 46k miles, second set of plugs since I've owned it, plugs are - I assume - standard Honda replacements.
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novatz wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:04 pm Sorry - bike is a 2010, purchased with 14k miles < 2 years ago, now has 46k miles, second set of plugs since I've owned it, plugs are - I assume - standard Honda replacements.
Well if you notice other symptoms or some sort of change....Wade on it.


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