Trunk Rattle


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Hi guys

This weekend the whole rear of the wing gets torn apart to try and find a rattle. Since Sept a rattle has occurred somewhere and I have been ignoring it. Now it has rattled its last rattle. I tired the foam in the hinges trick and that was not it. I will post my findings but does anyone have an insight on how they fixed there rattle. I think something is loose in more that one place. I plan on removing the trunk and driving it a bit and then slowly inspecting everything and try to figure this out.

Ideas? It never was this bad so I know it is fixable.

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While riding, does the rattle change if you reach back and push on the passenger back rest ???
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I will try that when i drive home tonight. I know if I take some foam and put it under the speakers when the trunk is open and then close it that is lessens.
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On my 1500 I had rattling everywhere..It is over 30 years old..
On mine and another fellow with a 1800, I opened the trunk lid and carefully inspected the "lip" where they overlap..It was easy to spot every place where the 2 plastic parts were rubbing together..Out comes the magic..
A strip of fuzzy Velcro..cut to twice the wear area...fixed to the inside of the lid..nothing hanging out..No more rattle.
So I went back over my bike...all the covers that could rattle or squeak..the saddle bags,side covers,wheel covers..etc..lo and behold I found wear spots on all of them...more hidden Velcro..
All I hear now is wind and tire noise.
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Before you tear it all apart, check in your rear glove boxes for anything that might rattle, and that the doors are tight. There, now tear it apart.
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Thx all for comments.

I am going to buy the bumpers that was posted. I did try pushing on the rear seat and surprisingly that stopped in 60% I might have two rattles. I will tear it apart this weekend because i need to get in there for the air filter as well and a running some wiring for lights.

So if I push on the seat and it helps what does that mean?

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It means what virgilmobile was talking about. The lid to the trunk and saddlebag lids are more then likely rubbing or rattling. I did the same thing he did and it helped tremendously. I also put 3/16 or 1/4 diameter tubing inside the seal that goes around the lid of the trunk for a better seal and to have the lid pop up when released to open.
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zeekxxx wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:50 am Thx all for comments.

I am going to buy the bumpers that was posted. I did try pushing on the rear seat and surprisingly that stopped in 60% I might have two rattles. I will tear it apart this weekend because i need to get in there for the air filter as well and a running some wiring for lights.

So if I push on the seat and it helps what does that mean?

:)
I would not use those. You will be drilling holes for a product that is not that great ... on many they quickly get torn off. However, you might try this product. As an FYI ... there are only 5 products that make a 5th gen GL1800 mechanically better. This is 1 of them ... everything else is for bling of comfort.

http://wingriderproducts.com
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I had the bumpers on 2 Wing with no problems. There's no reason for them to fail :roll:
They stopped the chaffing and the rattle :D
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You could also try to insert some aquarium tubing (1/4 inch OD) into the gasket on the trunk lid. Start at the seam on the bottom and push it through to both sides. A little silicone spray makes it fairly easy. I did this on both of my 1800's and no more chafing and no rattles.
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So here is an update.

Took everything out of trunk.... still rattles
Took Lid off trunk put it on carpet. Still rattle
Stuffed towels in the small compartments under the rear speakers. Actually stopped a small squeak.
Took duct tape and taped hinges in the up position with pressure on the hinges. Stopped 80% of it.

Mind you I already has foam weather strip in there as the how to article said. Here is my issue.

The hinges rattle from side to side. The pins that hold the hinges have play in them and the hinge jump up and down and well as side to side.

If I could take the hinges off easily I would try to take them off to test.

What a horrible design to allow so much wiggle and jiggle. I am currently looking if I can get some rubber grommets in there to tighten things up or something.

The roads where I live are nice but I have to travel on a more rugged road to the last leg of my work that causes vibration you normally would not get on the highway.

I am very happy I found the cause. I will post up the results of what I end up doing.

For the record I did just place an order for the trunk supports because I think its a very good idea and should have been there from the factory.


Thanks All :)
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zeekxxx wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:53 pm The hinges rattle from side to side. The pins that hold the hinges have play in them and the hinge jump up and down and well as side to side.
If I could take the hinges off easily I would try to take them off to test.
What a horrible design to allow so much wiggle and jiggle. I am currently looking if I can get some rubber grommets in there to tighten things up or something.
Maybe try some small O-Ring stock or take some small O-rings and cut them and put them around the hinge pin in the spaces between the plastic hinge sections, that graphite filled cord used to repack faucet stems may work also, wrap it around the pin between the plastic bits and secure, maybe with black Gorilla tape inside the cubby.

Just a thought or two, I may have to investigate mine also, there are a lot of rattles and loose sounding plastic on my bike, I have not investigated much, just passed it off as the nature of the beast, but it would be nice to get rid of some of it.
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update

I have everything apart now. I ordered the support from wingriders I think it was. about 73 bucks with shipping. Comes today.

I have the hinge on my work bench and I found one of the issues. I will post up what I did in the end if I can stop the rattle.

I have taken a good bit of pictures so if I can stop it I might have a nice how to article.

Thanks for all the input.
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Ok. Update. Installed the wingrider trunk support and I am impressed. It is a product that should have been there by by the manufacturer. I guess you cant think of everything.

There is good news and bad. The good is that the product worked great. No rubbing on the sides where everyone is putting the rubber hoses and gaskets. Solid feeling when closed. Very nice.

The hinges still rattle a bit. The noise changed from 100% tick me to to occasional tick me off. So that is worth it right there. My issue is I need to get a small rubber o ring in there to stop the pin from jiggling in the hinge. I did take some channel locks and bend the hinge support struts out a bit in width so they is no room for left right jiggle in the supporting struts and hinge. Hard to explain but my goal is to fill gaps so things have no play to rattle.

I am happy with what was done. The only time I get noise is when I hit railroad tracks or bridge expansion points.

I can live with this if I can't do anything more but its not in my nature to stop until there is no hope.

I will add a few pictures when I feel I have something more to share. I don't want to make a "how to" article that only solves 50% of the issue.
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Yo en la 1800 , simplemente metí por dentro de la goma que tiene por el perímetro para hacer que cierre y no entre agua, yo metí por dentro un tubo de plástico transparente, de los de gasolina de toda la vida y con eso ya no suena.
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Rapidillo wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:34 pm Yo en la 1800 , simplemente metí por dentro de la goma que tiene por el perímetro para hacer que cierre y no entre agua, yo metí por dentro un tubo de plástico transparente, de los de gasolina de toda la vida y con eso ya no suena.
Yeah, this is the same sort of idea, in spanish as the aquarium tubing five posts up. It works for some.
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Say what? Not sure what they said.
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Intentaré explicarme de otra manera. La tapa de la maleta, tiene pegada por el perímetro de toda la tapa una goma de color negro y que por dentro, está hueca. Pues se trata de meter por el interior de esa goma, una tubería de las que utilizan los ciclomotores para la gasolina, está tubería es transparente y hay que aplicarle algún lubricante, para que sea más fácil meterlo.

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Lo siento, es problema de traductor.
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You realize, of course, that as soon as you quiet the trunk noise, you're gonna start hearing the other noises that were masked by the trunk noise. Right ?
Solution ?
Leave a little trunk noise, and save your sanity for another day :-)
Just one other thought. My 2008 has a compartment under the main floor of the trunk. If yours does, have you checked for loose things floating around in there ?
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Rapidillo wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:00 pm Intentaré explicarme de otra manera. La tapa de la maleta, tiene pegada por el perímetro de toda la tapa una goma de color negro y que por dentro, está hueca. Pues se trata de meter por el interior de esa goma, una tubería de las que utilizan los ciclomotores para la gasolina, está tubería es transparente y hay que aplicarle algún lubricante, para que sea más fácil meterlo.

English translation: I will try to explain myself in another way. The lid of the suitcase has a black rubber glued on the perimeter of the entire lid and inside it is hollow. Well it's about putting inside that rubber, a pipe used by mopeds for gasoline, this pipe is transparent and you have to apply some lubricant, to make it easier to put it.


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That's what I did and add the fuzzy side of velcro to the top lid.
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U would think someone from GoldWing would and should take all these ideas and make a master repair!!! I am able to read but I am old. Could someone(s) send a photo or 2 of what they did to fix, even a partial fix, the rattle? I read a possible solution, but then I don’t always understand it. I was out yesterday doing other stuff to the bike, btw, it’s a brand new 2016. If I tap, bang, jump on, the right side of the outer trunk area, I get the rattle, noise, etc I get while riding and hitting bumps. So I think it’s narrowed down to that side more the the left side. So again, being old, most of the fixes cause the trunk lid to be tighter? Thus “inflating” the one rubber seal, would cause that to “fill the gap”. I’m not sure where anyone is placing Velcro, or insulating tape, on the hinge, under the hinge, etc. hence the request for pics...
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