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Glen773
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It has been posted on here that you should not tie down a 1800 GW by the crash bars. They would look like one of the strongest places to do it.
Why should I not do it?



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Re: Towing

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Because you are not allowing the suspension to do its' job.

the herky jerky actions of the trailer are transported direct to the crash bars, and over time, there will be metal fatigue at the attachment points/bolts.

Better to just tie the rear wheel side to side so it cannot go sideways. I use a single strap that goes around the rear wheel once to do that.

I much prefer to use a short strap around the front wheel direct to the trailer frame, that precludes any front/rear movement of the bike.

the normal straps over the lower triple tree to pull the forks down 2-3 inches to keep the bike preloaded and in place.
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Re: Towing

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The bolts are not designed to take the constant pounding. When I bought my 2012, the shipping company tied down the rear of the bike by the rear crash bars. Sure enough, when I checked, the two front bolts on both bars were broken.

I have towed my wing a lot of miles the following way without any trouble or damage to the bike.

Here is my 1988 on my trailer. You tie down the 1800 the same way. It is best to use a wheel chock. Straps from the bottom triple tree to the trailer. Do not crank them down solid. As AZgl said, you need to let the suspension do it's job.

Remove the side panels and tie the straps to the frame, then to the trailer.

I had a strap on the rear wheel also to help with the side to side movement. I had already taken it off when I took this photo.

There are many posts on strapping a wing to a trailer. This is the most used method.
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Here is a picture of my Scooter's rear wheel tied down.
that is the only thing I do to my 1800 when it is in the same trailer.
both the 1800 and Scooter has a short strap around the front wheel snugging the wheel into a chock.






It has dual front wheels, so no triple tree to access, instead I use a special Handlebar strap with cups.
Two cups, one for each handle bar, the cups has short straps that go from one cup the a loop on the opposite cup and then hang down about 12 inches. The normal Tie downs go to the short loops.
that snugs the front suspension the same way that we use the triple tree on Goldwings.


the front wheels are snugged down into the chock. On this trailer, the chock is a permanent pair of 3" Angle irons.







here is the 1800 strapped down into my Toy Hauler.... the bike is too long to go in the normal way, it has to sit diagonally. Rear Tire straps can be seen, and the Handlebar cup straps can almost be seen. the front wheel straps cannot be seen, they tie down into Eye bolts to the floor.







the scooter is a better fit for the Toy Hauler :)
With picture, the Handlebar Cups/Straps are much easier to been seen where the normal Tie down straps hook into the Handlebar cup strap ends.







The 1800's front wheel chock can be seen in this picture.
the 1800 does not ride in this trailer any more, the 980 lb load, causes the trailer to Dog Wag :(
that is why I bought the scooter :)

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2009 Piaggio MP3 250cc

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Re: Towing

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I found an older laptop that has a picture of the handlebar harness,
this is a very valuable thing to have, and I suggest everyone get one.







https://www.amazon.com/Canyon-Dancer-32 ... 265&sr=8-4


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~John

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Re: Towing

Post by Glen773 »

Thanks to all.
I am only going to tow it one time. From all I have seen, its best to strap the front wheel to a chock and the back wheel side to side. A wheel chock is a must have. Doesn't look too hard to do.

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Re: Towing

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I'm not a fan of using the handle bars or crashbars as a tie down point. These bikes weigh too much to rely on the handlebar or bolts of the bars to hold the weight.
Tie your bikes off around the frame and the lower triple tree using soft ties.
You might get away with it a time or you might find your bike taking a nap or worse.
Yes, a wheel chock like the Condor is a must for long distance transport of these wings.


The How to tie off your wing for transport

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=14030

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newday777 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:20 am
I'm not a fan of using the handle bars or crashbars as a tie down point. These bikes weigh too much to rely on the handlebar or bolts of the bars to hold the weight.
Tie your bikes off around the frame and the lower triple tree using soft ties.
You might get away with it a time or you might find your bike taking a nap or worse.
Yes, a wheel chock like the Condor is a must for long distance transport of these wings.


The How to tie off your wing for transport

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=14030
I agree - on a small bike or scooter, handlebar tiedown is OK. On a 1000 lb Wing...well, I'm not going to tie mine down by the handlebars, let's just say that.

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Re: Towing

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I tow my 2014 wing in an enclosed trailer. Once from Ohio to deadwood and back. Twice to Florida for the winter. Here's how I did it.

Got the front wheel in a chock fron northern tool. The one that flips up in the rear to sort of lock it in
I use a canyon strap on the handlebars and tie downs on the front engine guards, rear saddle bag guards, and the seat handles ( ones used for putting on the center stand) . On the delicate bits I use some soft hooks with a clean rag for cushioning.

I use between 8 and 10 tiedowns total with 6 anchor points in the floor. I have had no damage or loosening of the bike in any trip. I think the secret is to have multiple support points to spread the load out. No one tiedown is cinched down overly tight.

Ride safe
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