Dismount navi on 2012?!


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Dismount navi on 2012?!

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Hello all

Just switched to a used GL1800 2012. I will not use the built-in navigator but continue running with my Garmin Zumo 660 that I am very happy with, but the navigator in the top box takes some space so I want to dismantle it. Tested today. Screwed away the navigator and tried to start. But nothing happened. The LCD didn´t even light upp. Just black. Is there any way to go past this built-in latch.

I hate mom Honda for here rigid way of dealing with this with GPS, updates and not being able to maneuver GPS while traveling. Had definitely bought one 2012 without a navigator and airbag if it had found here in Sweden

Hope for a solution.
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I would like to remove the GPS on my 2010 so I hope someone will come up with a good solution .

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On my 2012 the GPS unit takes up such little space in the trunk I don't find it to be of any consequence. Why not just shut it off if not using it?

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I have not seen any writeups in the past 10 years being on 3 different wing forums to remove it. Lots of complaints yes, but nothing if anyone could remove it. Yes it is intrigual to the LCD screen to work.

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Many thanks "newdat777" for your reply. It seems that you have done genuine research on the issue. Since the ingenuity is great among Guldwinge owners, a solution should already exist. So I realize that the navigator can not be removed without consequences.
But would like us to keep the thread alive. There could be someone out there who has succeeded.

However, it feels unnecessary to travel around with it in the top box when I will use my Zumo 595 which is always available to get updated maps without hassle. Judging by the thickness of the manual for the on board navigator (170 pages) it is not exactly user friendly. But that's the way it is. What you haven't learned is complicated.
But what annoys me the most is that in Sweden it costs like half a new Zumo 595 to get a new map update.

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Of course you can remove it, just not cheaply. All you have to do is convert the bike to a non-navi model.

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SHAPPE wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:42 pm
But what annoys me the most is that in Sweden it costs like half a new Zumo 595 to get a new map update.
There are those that have managed to use OSM map data, which is available for free, for the 2012 and up Honda navigation systems.

Including myself.

It's a bit of a laborious process to actually convert the data to be capable of being imported to the GPS - especially here in the US, as the map data won't quite fit in the available memory.

I would think that much of Europe would be possible to do.
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Thank you for your suggestions.
Some time ago I asked the question, about removing the Navigator, to the technical manager at Honda Sweden. According to him, just disconnect the Navigator and screw it away. There you can see how well read the experts are.

There is a thread on the forum on how to bypass the TPMS module. Something like this quick fix would be something to be desired when it comes to relaxing the Navigator. A "by pass" so that the machine thinks the Navigator is in place though not.

Well – when it comes to the end it is a worldly problem that can be lived with. Just wanted to hear if this so well-informed forum had some easy solution to the issue.

Thank you for all the commitment so far
Anders

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The 'combination meter' (Honda's terminology) is driven by an output from the navigation system on those so equipped, by a study of the schematic diagrams of those bikes that have the Navi system and those that do not.

In fact, the 'combination meter' on the non-Navi unit has a smaller connector in one location, which probably takes into account the smaller LCD screen that's present on the non-Navi motorcycle. A third connection is present that contains the video display signals for the Navi system.

Truly doesn't seem to be feasible.
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OK "kwthom". Thanks for the inspiration. That sounds interesting. I have the 50mm thick "Service Manual" with 10 mm electricity schedule. I'll see if your thoughts might be right. It's a "Canbus" free system that's reasonably easy to understand. If it´s possible to find a solution, then the hardest part is - "Should I dare to test". I will cal again if I come upp with some ideas.
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Though it seems that you have already looked and noted. "Truly doesn't seem to be feasible".



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